i'm 1 of those gear luvin dudes who is also in a recovery program. the dudes there are getting on my fucking nerves telling me i relapsed b/c i have used a "mind altering" substance. even though i can't find much eveidence via google search to back that up. it's to the point that i'm getting pissed off and feel like altering somebody else. i do believe they are addicting (so is caffeine and nicotine) but i feel mind altering is a stretch. some even say that jacking your libido is the same as mood altering. some input please.