Is their a supplement or remedy to combat Lactic Acid build up in muscles

[Presser]

My lactic acid has been building up way too fast making me cut short on some exercises, anyone know if anyone makes andthing to combat this problem, like a specific supplement for just lactic acid?

I know some guys use baking soda or baking powder and drink it before they do high reps for NFL combine, it supposedly kills the acid build up and lets you hit more reps. SO i would think maybe something was availoable

Hell my forearms get so pumped up i have to stop typing as well, its a serious issue,lol

 

[theBIGness]

humalog+glutamine+a little creatine will swell you up and you wont be sore

 

[LeatherHead]

I've heard people say to down a gallon of water before/during your workout, and it will flush it all away. I don't get sore, so I don't know if this is true or not, but I still drink a ton of water. But then again, lactic acid isn't why you get sore afterwards, it's why you burn during. So yea, I really don't know. lol

 

[franconian]

sodium bicarbonate. I use to mix it with a gallon of water and drink it during workout

 

[jtunderdog]

I know a PT and I will ask him. Last time I talked to him about the release of lactic acid he said it is caused by your body switching the way it produces energy. ATP production switches during Krebbs. The ammonia smell is due to this change. He said it is actually beneficial instead of detrimental. I will ask him why for you and if there is anything you can do to stop it. He told me training with lower oxygen intake (kinda like a snorkel on a treadmill principle) will help you be able to go longer. I hope that made sense to some degree.

 

[Presser]

thnx JT but i just aint buying his view on lactic acid being good for me

 

[Get_Swole]

Dont really know presser. I had a similar thing happen today after shoulder presses my front delts were about done and it was hard to do even side laterals after that. I might have to start with side laterals and then go to front press last.

The amonia smell is from your body breaking down BCAA's and proteins for energy instead of carbs. Never heard of it tied to lactic acid before.

 

[(N)shape]

Lactic Acid in reality is not that bad of a thing Lactic Acid is actually produced to help with energy and is a fuel for the body to use.

"The understanding now is that muscle cells convert glucose or glycogen to lactic acid. The lactic acid is taken up and used as a fuel by mitochondria, the energy factories in muscle cells."

"Mitochondria even have a special transporter protein to move the substance into them. Intense training makes a difference, because it can make double the mitochondrial mass."

I had a really good article on it but I can't find it!! FREAK!!! But basically Lactic Acid in and of itself is not bad as your body produces it to fuel extreme situations. The down side to Lactic would be that is Acid and so it messes up your bodies pH levels making your system more acidic. One supplement I really like to help balance out pH levels is H-Blocker by iSatori however most pre workout supplements contain beta alanine which helps as well. A good Beta product is BETA-X by AST.

 

[Zeus]

Beta alanine is prob your best bet to fight lactic acid build up. Works fckn great!!!!!

 

[MrPerfect]

a old school method a guy i know swears by is unset jello

he makes it just like the box says but drinks it after it cools

i dunno how it works so dnt ask :-/

 

[franconian]

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/body_and_soul/article4539000.ece

 

[franconian]

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/lactic.htm

 

[irish2003]

baking soda......they now have some "buffer" sports drinks out but I can't think of the names of them

 

[jtunderdog]

It isn't good for you in the sense you want it but it keeps your body producing energy in extreme situations. The more muscle the more oxygen you require and theoretically if you are growing rapidly right now you are going to need more oxygen thus producing more lactic acid. Its just a protection system. I didn't mean that you necessarily wanted it to occur.

 

[Presser]

lol, i know, and i learne something new every day, didnt know lactic acid was used to fuel anything, just thought it was a pain in my ass

 

[mcbain]

lactic acid

I have had the same prob many time...massive lactic acid build up cutting my sets short. especially on low dose EQ, the lactic build up and pump is unbareable. Partially due to all the abuse my lungs took in the 90's and not being able to deliver the neccessary amount of oxygen to my muscles=rapid lactic acid build up.
I have experimented with everything to combat this.

The most sucessful for me is
1)TUMS (or also baking soda mixed into pre-workout drink or any sodium bicarbonate powder) 30% to my rep #'s on only tums...crazy. Before the burn stopped me short of max reps. Its an interesting feeling not having lactic acid build up, cause you want to keep going til you feel it....be careful, thats is how Ive gotten injured. ...An excercise physiology professor at my university said that "blood ph" is regulated closely and any bicarb would be counter acted in 5-10 minutes or so BUT the tums or baking soda has a noticable effect for at least 30-40 minutes for me. Upon further discussion with this professor, he stated that 'Cellular ph' is very different from 'Blood Ph' and is regualted in a different manner.

2)AAKG (beta alanine and norvaline help also)

3)Promagnon aka pmag or hroid depending on company selling it (4hydroxy methyl test precursor...not to be confused with the "1,4 ene" 'hdrol' among other names (basically the 4hydroxy boldenone precursor). Takes away the lactate build up so much that I can do reps for daaaaays. more than most orals (along with superdrol) to the point where Ive injured my shoulder a few times "overdoing it"....the lactic acid helps me to realize its time to stop and rest a few minutes.

also, its true that your body uses lactic acid as energy during anaerobic atp production, but its the LACTATE portion of the 'lactic acid ' molecule that is used. the Acid portion (hydrogen ion actually), once separated from the lactate portion, is what causes the burn...BUT BUT BUT, that burn is the trigger for a host of physiologic actions (i.e. peptide hormone release: GH, IGF-1, Prostaglandins etc..amongst other things) that are a part of the muscle building/"adaptation" process. I always tell people "inflamation is part of what triggers the rebuilding process".
So for that reason I also avoid NSAID's when possible.

One last suggestion. Make sure your zinc levels are proper. I know there is alot of info on zinc the past few years and its effects on performance and testosterone levels, but one of its main actions is to increase carbonic anhydrase in Red blod cells. when levels of carbonic anhydrase are low, our RBC's cant clear carbon dioxide efficently and deliver to lungs.

 

[Presser]

I have had the same prob many time...massive lactic acid build up cutting my sets short. especially on low dose EQ, the lactic build up and pump is unbareable. Partially due to all the abuse my lungs took in the 90's and not being able to deliver the neccessary amount of oxygen to my muscles=rapid lactic acid build up.
I have experimented with everything to combat this.

The most sucessful for me is
1)TUMS (or also baking soda mixed into pre-workout drink or any sodium bicarbonate powder) 30% to my rep #'s on only tums...crazy. Before the burn stopped me short of max reps. Its an interesting feeling not having lactic acid build up, cause you want to keep going til you feel it....be careful, thats is how Ive gotten injured. ...An excercise physiology professor at my university said that "blood ph" is regulated closely and any bicarb would be counter acted in 5-10 minutes or so BUT the tums or baking soda has a noticable effect for at least 30-40 minutes for me. Upon further discussion with this professor, he stated that 'Cellular ph' is very different from 'Blood Ph' and is regualted in a different manner.

2)AAKG (beta alanine and norvaline help also)

3)Promagnon aka pmag or hroid depending on company selling it (4hydroxy methyl test precursor...not to be confused with the "1,4 ene" 'hdrol' among other names (basically the 4hydroxy boldenone precursor). Takes away the lactate build up so much that I can do reps for daaaaays. more than most orals (along with superdrol) to the point where Ive injured my shoulder a few times "overdoing it"....the lactic acid helps me to realize its time to stop and rest a few minutes.

also, its true that your body uses lactic acid as energy during anaerobic atp production, but its the LACTATE portion of the 'lactic acid ' molecule that is used. the Acid portion (hydrogen ion actually), once separated from the lactate portion, is what causes the burn...BUT BUT BUT, that burn is the trigger for a host of physiologic actions (i.e. peptide hormone release: GH, IGF-1, Prostaglandins etc..amongst other things) that are a part of the muscle building/"adaptation" process. I always tell people "inflamation is part of what triggers the rebuilding process".
So for that reason I also avoid NSAID's when possible.

dude that was one the best reads i have come across personaly in a long while, especialy from someone just spitting out the info they knew first hand and not some cut and paste. Where the hell have you been? lol you registered with us in 2004 6 years ago,lol, I look forward to another good read from you in 2016 lol, welcome brutha!

 

[Presser]

oh and im going to give tums a try, how many did u take to feel the difference

 

[Presser]

i guess you just edited in the part about zinc, appreciate the added info, and again how many tums u take to see the lactic acid disapate

 

[mcbain]

oh and im going to give tums a try, how many did u take to feel the difference

lol, hey thanks. some times I drop off boards for a while. lol. I am not a big poster these days. I usually post at Anabolex or Meso rx or BB.com and lately anabolic minds.
I actually forgot I belong to this board.

I took 3-5 extra strength tums 5-10 minutes prior to work out (kicks in fast). Baking soda (not baking powder) may be more cost effective.