Is This Good?

[Pips]

Hello Guys, I would like to know if this cycle is ok or not. Notice this is my first ever and what I want to get is gains in lean mass and get more definition. Duration of the cycle is 10 weeks.

Monday: Deca 100.mg
Wednesday: Winny depot 100 mg.
Friday: EQ 200 mg.

Also Monday through Saturday:
2 pills Oxandrolone 5mg each.
2 pills Mesterolone 25 mg each.

I would really apreatiate your input. I have been on this cycle for 3 weeks now.

Thanks all and Nice to tal to you again

 

[irishpride]

no its not...and your stats would be help too...

 

[Pips]

Hello m8, Stats are 38 years old. 16 BF%, 5'8", 176 Pounds.
Thanks for your promt reply.

 

[Get_Swole]

agreed it sucks tell us your stats how long youve been lifting cycles etc. then we can help.

 

[Pips]

Ok, Stats are 38 years old. 16 BF%, 5'8", 176 Pounds. I've been lifting for 3 years now but I stoped for about 8 months and started lifting 3 months ago. This is my first Cycle and as Itold you before I have been on it for 3 weeks now. Is there anything I can do now to fix it if it is so terrible?

Thanks guys.

 

[Get_Swole]

first cycle and no test at all? any reasoning behind this? just curious? You have any gains in the first 3 weeks? I would have just done a straight test cycle for my first as would 95% of most BB'ers thats why we said what we said.

 

[Pips]

I believe it is a little too late for a straight test cycle now... Can I incorporate Test to the cycle now instead of the Deca or EQ? Are the dosages ok or need fixing? Should I postpone the Winny for the last weeks? I understand that I didn't got it right in the first place but I need help on getting the best results on what I already have if posible.

 

[BiggerStronger]

The whole layout is wrong. Winny's half live is only 9 hours if I remember correctly. You should be taking it everyday at atleast 25mg each day. Also your doses are extremely low even for a beginner cycle. I would keep it simple with 500mg of Test Enanthate each week and maybe the EQ at 400mg per week. You can add test to it now for better results.

 

[MMX2]

I really think you need to reconsider your cycle.
These guys have given you some good advice in which to move forward.
I would also like to know your cardio and diet changes as well.
No matter what cycle you do, if you don't have the diet and cardio thing down, your results will suffer.

 

[Get_Swole]

sorry been away from my computer hate to be a dick but i would quit the cycle all together. The layout is horrible. winny on wednesday? and you are correct BS its 9 hours from what i remember. Which means you get winny in your system one day out of 7? Also deca suppresses your sex drive. EQ doesnt help. I would quit now your levels will be messed up and your not running enough of anything to even notice gains except the orals, which will be very short term gains. I would stop the cycle now save what you have and plan a better cycle in the near future thats just my advice. good luck.

 

[Pips]

The whole layout is wrong. Winny's half live is only 9 hours if I remember correctly. You should be taking it everyday at atleast 25mg each day. Also your doses are extremely low even for a beginner cycle. I would keep it simple with 500mg of Test Enanthate each week and maybe the EQ at 400mg per week. You can add test to it now for better results.

Thanks a lot! I may be pushing my luck by asking you a few more questions. I hope am not too much of a pain... So, as I posted before I'm on my 3rth. week on this "cycle". Should I just add the 500mg Test now replacing the Deca and doing the 25mg winny every day? And should I do this for the remaining 7 weeks?
Thank you again for all the help.

 

[Get_Swole]

Thanks a lot! I may be pushing my luck by asking you a few more questions. I hope am not too much of a pain... So, as I posted before I'm on my 3rth. week on this "cycle". Should I just add the 500mg Test now replacing the Deca and doing the 25mg winny every day? And should I do this for the remaining 7 weeks?
Thank you again for all the help.

man your never pushing your luck by asking questions that means your learning . No worries at all. Do you have test on hand right now? If so then i would start 500mg's of test right now and drop everything, the test will help even things out and run that for 10 weeks. If you wanna run the winny you can. Wouldnt advise it for 10 full weeks though as its liver toxic inj. or oral. Hopefully you have some nolva, and clomid or hcg on hand for PCT. post cycle therapy which is almost as important as the cycle in my opinion. Ask any questions you want man keep them coming thats why were here is to help people. That is just my opinion on how to help fix what you got goin and help you get decent gains.

 

[Pips]

sorry been away from my computer hate to be a dick but i would quit the cycle all together. The layout is horrible. winny on wednesday? and you are correct BS its 9 hours from what i remember. Which means you get winny in your system one day out of 7? Also deca suppresses your sex drive. EQ doesnt help. I would quit now your levels will be messed up and your not running enough of anything to even notice gains except the orals, which will be very short term gains. I would stop the cycle now save what you have and plan a better cycle in the near future thats just my advice. good luck.

Thanks so much! ok, so if I stop now and save what I have does that means am gonna be using it later on when I start with a better cycle? How long will i have to wait till I start the new one? And also I would love to see an example of what a good cycle to gain lean mass would look like. Are there any websites out there with this kind of info I can look for?

Again, I'm sorry for all this questions but i beleave it is clear to all that I have no idea of what to do.

 

[Get_Swole]

your good man. Yes you can use what you have for later. A good rule of thumb most of us use is time on = time off. So say you do a 12 week cycle then in 3 months or 12 weeks it would be sufficient amount of time to start again. Ok lets say lean mass with minimal bloat.
Test prop. 100mg's eod - every other day
EQ 400 mg's every week
Anavar or winny or even turinabol around 50mg's every day

Not really any sites to just look at cycles to be honest your at one of the best for personal and great opinions and advice. Im hittin the sack for the night but ask any more questions your unsure of man there will be many more guys here with advice tomorrow. Good luck man and keep the questions coming thats the only way you will learn cheers.

 

[irishpride]

i agree with all that has been said by my site rep buddies..i would get more deca or eq and run something like this
deca 300-400mgs EW wks 1-10
test 400-500mgs EW wks 1-10
or for a more lean mass cycle
eq 400-500mgs EW wks 1-12
test eth or cyp 500mgs wks 1-12
you can use the var or winni as a kick start say 40-50mgs ED for the first few weeks and then say wks 10-14 and then start your pct 2 days after last oral
make sure you have anti-es on hand for any gyno or bloat and for you pct run some hcg or clomid and nolva...

 

[Pips]

I can't thank you enough, you guys are the best!!! I wish I could do something for you. am off to bed too and see you all tomorrow.

 

[irishpride]

no problem bud its what we are here for..and from now on before you start anything i would suggest running it by the board so you get feedback...now before you start cycling again i would make sure your diet and training are on point so post up what your doing...AAS are a tool not a main staple, its diet, training and rest that make up the bulk of what we do.

 

[Pips]

I really think you need to reconsider your cycle.
These guys have given you some good advice in which to move forward.
I would also like to know your cardio and diet changes as well.
No matter what cycle you do, if you don't have the diet and cardio thing down, your results will suffer.

Thanks for your help. I do 1 hour cardio 5 days a week. Could be Running, Swimming or bicycle.

As for my diet, I eat 6 meals a day rich in protein low on carbs, I guess the regular low carb low fat diet.

I do take some suplements like protein shakes, multi-vitamins, L-Carnetina, Gloutamin and a thermogenic.

When I started this regimen 3 months ago I was on 26 % BF now I am at 16% BF and gain about 6 pounds or so of muscle mass. So far it has worked for me, I'm happy with the results. But maybe results could be better I don't know.

 

[Pips]

Good morning guys! Ok, I am going to do as adviced.
Test eth or cyp 500mgs wks 1-12. On Fridays.
Eq 400-500mgs wks 1-12. On Mondays.
Winny Depot 50mg ED on Weeks 10 to 14.

Just 3 questions here.
1.- I am on my 3rth week of the wanna be cycle I posted here. Do I count those 3 weeks on the 12 week Test/EQ cycle? meaning I would only do 9 more weeks as adviced?
2.- Would the Nolva do for the anti-es? and how much should I take at signs of gyno or bloat? or should I just take some during the cycle to prevent it? if so what's the dosage?
3.- I have tons of Winny Depot so instead of the pills am gonna go for what I have. 50 mg ED for 4 weeks starting at the 10th week of the cycle. (my skinny ass is gonna resent this) After 2 days of my last Winny shot I will start PCT. Should i go for HCG? or Nolva or Clomid and what dosage should I use?

 

[teedubgee]

1. Count the previous 3 weeks and only do 9 more.
2. Nolva should be fine. Depends on the severity of the symptoms. If it's really bad, I'd start with 40mg that day and 10mg throughout. That's what I require, but you may be different. You'll be able to figure it out in time.
3. I would run the winny from weeks 8-12 then start PCT. There are mixed opinions on HCG for PCT, I personally wouldn't use it during PCT. I'd run a classic Nolva/Clomid PCT. Run a search and you'll find it outlined a number of times.