my new peristaltic pump question. is the white peice really needed?

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I can't see any of your photos and I can't edit any of my post where I made typos and errors. Auto spell crap.
But it's simple, u making it tougher than it is trust me.

All u wanna do is secure all hoses to fittings. Make sure good tight connection is made because if it isn't air can suck through any fitting if least resistance exist there.

Just bleed air out. As far as wetting if u have a nylon filter u shouldn't have to wet with oil being filtered. Thought u had ptfe but looked again and it appears to be nylon I think.
Just bleed air as necessary and u shouldn't get any more air unless u have a leak at hose to fitting. Just connect firm or with a clamp to avoid. They make spring loaded hose clamps that are small enough for your hoses if necessary.
 
No I was confused with ptfe filter types. According to your Manuel that says wetting applies to ptfe when filtering liquids and if not done can bust and compromise integrity of filter and will stop creating an air lock.
U never had to listen to anything, u asked, u posted your manual out of confusion and we're scared to figure out if it had to be done.
It is only if air lock happens as stated or if u have smaller sample to add in.
Air locking can happen if your filter gets too stopped up and air is in way of liquids depending on membrane type.

If u get surges of air pressure to trickle through it will compromise your product. Alot of these filters are specifically designed for only liquid or only air at one given time for each not together.
U final product and how long your filter will last will be the problem depending on amounts of coarse.
 
i just did ran the pump and i did not wet it before hand and it went through fine. i left the cap on i didnt even take it off. and the pump didnt freeze up or anything. so no offense but i didnt listen to anything you said and it worked. i didnt need to pre wet it... i didnt need to do nothing . lol.

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the pump stopped for 10 seconds... i did nothing then it continued to run on its own without me letting air out or anything.. i think you are confused with a peristaltic pump and a vacume pump. like i said.

Not confuse with vacuum. Vacuum sucks air out creating a pressure sealed vacuum.
A pressure peristaltic pump pumps liquid with pressure against filter vs vacuum on back side of filter. A vacuum is on filtered side of liquids.
If u still don't know what your vent is for I hope u never run out of fuel that is liquid and not a gas.
Your vent will be useful once u need to filter enough raw through filter.
Anyway I feel like your are arguing and don't know what your issues were in first place.
I am a mechanic in real life I know what a pump vs a vacuum is and I have filtered gear and am not in question to a vent in any system. Don't know what u were confused about. Ever and by the way I was watching the superbowl

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Also nobody never said it wouldn't work. You have a vent on your system they designed it that way for a reason.
I always knew why it was there.
U didn't u asked. I tried to help.
U still were confused the vent is only there if IF YOU POSSIBLY HAPPEN TO GET AN AIR LOCK.
Most people bleed to prevent.
Everything your photos u post are unavailable.
Most people would turn on the pump and if they got an air lock they would open the vent!
This is cut and dry.
U kept saying you were confused, I stated every possible reason the vent CAN BE NECESSARY but not mandatory. And you would get a build up of air with an air lock if u had a fitting suck air from a bad connection. And yes they happen with new. Hose changes flexibility depending on temperature and time exposed.
U rubbed me the wrong way and kind of pissed me off. For a know it all u sure seemed confused. Good luck.

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i just did ran the pump and i did not wet it before hand and it went through fine. i left the cap on i didnt even take it off. and the pump didnt freeze up or anything. so no offense but i didnt listen to anything you said and it worked. i didnt need to pre wet it... i didnt need to do nothing . lol.

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the pump stopped for 10 seconds... i did nothing then it continued to run on its own without me letting air out or anything.. i think you are confused with a peristaltic pump and a vacume pump. like i said.

i turned the swich on. it sucked up the oils... and filtered right through. and then it even sucked up air because their was little oil left at the bottom of beaker and nothing happened at all. so i dont think you understand this setup my friend. not me. but i do appreciate your help... i didnt even let the air cap off... i didnt pre wet it. and i filtered 1000 ml in 5 minutes lol.

I aways understood the set up. U started this thread not me. I gave u answers to questions u asked and were confused about. This isn't a competition. I am not a intern for chemicals lol! But whatever I am blocking u because u are down right nervy. U take advantage of someone's help and willingNess to try to help then u a smart ass. Lol
 
lol i mean no disrespect man... so you are saying air can compromise my product now? now i am worried. and yes i have nylon filter.

when there was only a tiny of oil left in my beaker it sucked up lots of air. and i let it suck up the air.... to get the remaining oil that is lingering in the hose and filter.... you say the air doesnt get filtered and can compromise my product? is that what you mean by that?

because i let it suck up air at the very end to get all the oil i could get. sometimes the machine turns off on its own every 2m inutes.... but i just turn the switch off for 20 seconds then turn itb ack on.. and it does its thing...
 
lol i mean no disrespect man... so you are saying air can compromise my product now? now i am worried. and yes i have nylon filter.

when there was only a tiny of oil left in my beaker it sucked up lots of air. and i let it suck up the air.... to get the remaining oil that is lingering in the hose and filter.... you say the air doesnt get filtered and can compromise my product? is that what you mean by that?

because i let it suck up air at the very end to get all the oil i could get. sometimes the machine turns off on its own every 2m inutes.... but i just turn the switch off for 20 seconds then turn itb ack on.. and it does its thing...
I am saying that over pressure and air lock and back pressure can push through least resistance part of filter and cause it to bust. And causing filter to bring compromised especially capsule filter that are not bleed and made air free.
I am saying that air compresses and liquids doesn't. Pressure against air compresses it especially with oil.
This creates back pressure and can over pressure your filter and cause it to push through least resistance only and cause it to go out quickly.
Also if u read about the purpose of wetting and or venting air then u wouldn't ask a question while been confused. Then insult person who tried to help with your confusion.
Labs make gear. People have to refilter it all the time because the lab doesn't have a clue.
You remember the inconsistencies u spoke of? Well look how easy that can happen



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If u didn't have air stuck an air lock
Then your filter is fine especially with nylon and pump on low.
The vent is for that purpose yes to not create leaches bubbles that will pass threw least resistance. But u should be good.
If product is clear then u good.
The wetting can be done to flush any particals in air stuck in filter from downstream that an air lock can create back pressure in system and back pressure with compressed air can damage your filter and cause these leaches to come thru. It can compromise your filtered product and in this case cause infection. That is reason wetting with ba is often used to stop growth of anything that can get thru by contact.
Doing this to out in out body should follow every precaution especially for factory recommendations on filters including bleeding air.
On manufacturer page online if u look up wetting and venting capsule filters u find what I am trying to explain.
Something can fail without us knowing without venting air out because of back pressure. On your pump it has a one way valve so pressure cannot escape up stream. So yes I was wrong about installing a valve or holding finger on other end to bleed air out of vent without risk of back flow.
But it still will work either way to vent air. What u don't want is trapped air pressure creating extra back pressure against filter.
If filter is compromised all of product if in one beaker is ruined.
I am not saying it is I am saying venting prevents this.
Vacuum filters prevent the air issue but filters can always bust. That is reason smaller samples are better separated. Because if filter blows it's not all ruined.
In larger samples with your pump and capsule special care to vent is important. It's not necessarily so that air can't pass through because air can be filtered but air with liquid can cause back pressure stuck and push liquid through with more pressure at least resistance and compromise filter faster than if u vent.

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If filter is set in position besides being pointed down an air lock can occur. It can occur in any position but your vent up allows u to bleed excess air do it isn't stuck only allowing liquids to flow around it to get to filter.
If this happens filter will not have equal pressure from fluids against going thru at equal rate throughout whole surface area.
If any small air leak on suction side occurs air will be sucked in, which is no big deal because prefiltered gets filtered, but this air will rise to highest point and create a pocket a build up. It can pressure or compress making back pressure or start beating liquids to filter from least resistance to flow thru and your flow rate of liquids filtered will slow down.
Your vent is to bleed air also to get liquids filtered rather than air.
If u didn't have any issues without venting then- u had good connected sealed connections, u had brand new filter with one sample without problem of it slowing allowing air build up in system. Now if u had no trouble with sample but say it was 100ml tren a and say next u will do 100ml of tren a and tren e blend because filter is full of what it's supposed to filter out, then next sample can require venting unlike first.
Alot of filters say they are good for 500 ml but depending on purity of raws they can get stopped up before at say 250 ml.
They will require venting more and if not careful air back pressure can break bust filter before u notice and decide to change filter. This would mean your whole sample would need refiltering instead of just changing filters.
These are some of reasons vent would be necessary and the using it would be better safe than sorry kind of thing.
I myself would just be sure all connections are secured preventing suction leaks or flow leaks.
I would use a beaker and tilt it to side with something under it to have suction hose able to get as much as possible at end.
I would definitely vent it from any air to be trapped, one simple reason besides back pressure, is the fact that if I am halfway done for example and I had no air in capsule that I already vented then all of a sudden I had air again then I would know my filter is getting stopped up slowing flow rate down and air is getting into system because least resistance will always occur with in any pressure system with air or liquids. If I still had flow I would vent air out and continue. If flow begins to stop I would tighten connects possibly with a clamp.
Knowing your filter max pressure capacity is important. Having a gauge inline between pump and filter us important and prevents wondering.
So if I bleed air out again tighten clamps and not much flow is going thru filter and I didn't have a gauge it would be important to bleed a little pressure once and while to not over pressure filter.
if a gauge was present and I wanted to let pressure out to go down some I can use vent to do this as well.
If there is an air leak on suction end it's possible to never see it because same amount of air could stay in capsule if enough bubbles are passing through making it appear as liquid flow except only air would be being filtered and not much liquid. The vent allows us to stop this illusion.
Anyway if u got it great and I only got stressed out because u asked and was confused. Because you were confused I rambled about it to explain possible reasons and hope u could have visualized it.
Alot of it isn't necessary but sometimes can be mandatory depending on circumstances thickness of liquids, how pure raw is, all of those things.
I have rambled on and on here but feel it's important because someone can be at risk if precautions aren't taking.


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so if i use BA in my next capsule to pre wet it as you say. how do i prevent my final solution from getting this extra BA. I do not want to cause PIP from having weeting my filter with BA and causing it to get into my final product...
 
so if i use BA in my next capsule to pre wet it as you say. how do i prevent my final solution from getting this extra BA. I do not want to cause PIP from having weeting my filter with BA and causing it to get into my final product...
Real easy. U figure amount ba totally used. Add your bb your raw. Then have your whatever in syringe to wet then add rest to raw and bb. It shouldn't take much and it will all end up in same final solution with your 2% total.
But with nylon wetting isn't as important unless u have another 100 ml to filter after your first batch one behind other. Just an example.
I wouldn't worry about nylon.
And if u continue to have success without venting then it pays for me to get this pump and filter.
Filter is what $60
And pump? How much can pump go without changing kit?
And how long it took u to filter how much?
Let me know if it filters like 250 mg per ml on up just as good.
Will higher mg per that's when u may wanna vent. But as long as u got capsule in going straight to sterile and are carefully wetting doesn't have to be done unless checking integrity to see if u can filter more. But for ptfe wetting is necessary. I noticed your filter was AS and nylon so wouldn't worry about it. Thought is was ptfe link kept disappearing.

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Tapatalk keeps messing with my words. I am sorry about that. It's a different autospell setting on my keyboard through taptalk

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