never done a cutter

[Elmosback]

I have been skinny all my life b4 I started gear. I am currently at 195-200lbs 5 11' and 25 yrs old. bf @ 14-18%? So this is what I will have. Tell me what else I should throw in there.

10wks deca@400mgs
10wks test E @500mgs
I will have about 120 tabs of winny. 50mgs for how long?

I really want to do this right and keep the doses at a safe level.

 

[saturn1]

winny 50mg ed or eod for 6 weeks is the usual regimen. Good luck in your pursuit brother.

 

[Elmosback]

thanks cyphon! But, is there anything else that would cut me up even more if I threw it in there?

 

[Thick1]

Elmo,

The Test Enanthate and Deca are not drugs commonly used for cutting they are bulking drugs as they do aromatize and hold water.

The key to what you want to do is your diet. I would highly recommend that you bulk up with the test and deca for 10 weeks. However watch your diet and hold the fat down so you put on quality weight and muscles.

At the end of the 10 weeks, pct for 3 weeks using clomid. After the third week use the Winnie tabs at 50 mgs everyday for 6 weeks, watch your diet, dropping carbs and taking an OTC thermogenic drug such as Xenadrine, Hydroxycut etc. or a step up and use an ECA stack.

By following this cycle, you will maximize the use of your gear and acheive your desired results.

 

[Elmosback]

I understand what you are sayn bro. but, I get confused when I hear Eq and deca are the same and test E and test cyp are the same. Then I hear people say that one is better than the other.

Okay. how is this for a cutter then.

wk 1-4 IPs prop/susp combe eod?
10wk test cyp 500mg
10wk eq 400mg
wk3-9 winny 50mgs ed

 

[Thick1]

Test is test and the only preference is the delivery system aka ester which would be propionate, cypionate and enanthate.

Deca and Eq are not alike, equipoise is generally used for cutting as it does not retain water like deca does. When using Eq becareful and stretch good as this drug does make you tight and the possiblities of getting hurt is greater.

I will tell you this keep things simple, at this point your brain is racing at a speed over 100 mph thinking of this and that to add to your cycle. Bro if you have the gear stick with what I just planned out for you the addition of test susp/prop will not make anything different, just alot more injections.

Stay simple and maximize the gear you have.

 

[J*]

I don't really believe in cutting and bulking steroids...basically what that means is what you are going to look like while on (in other words how much water you will retain). You can cut with whatever you want...just be real clean with your diet. If you don't mind being somewhat bloated during your cycle, cut with anything, the water will come off. If you want to look "cut" while on your cycle, then stay away from deca and test-e (as mentioned ealier). Your call, I would suggest using substances you know you are comfortable with. Water always comes off

J

 

[HHH]

I don't really believe in cutting and bulking steroids...basically what that means is what you are going to look like while on (in other words how much water you will retain). You can cut with whatever you want...just be real clean with your diet. If you don't mind being somewhat bloated during your cycle, cut with anything, the water will come off. If you want to look "cut" while on your cycle, then stay away from deca and test-e (as mentioned ealier). Your call, I would suggest using substances you know you are comfortable with. Water always comes off

J

Ahhh,, yes I agree with this. As you can cut on a Deca,,Test E cycle. As I have done it. BUT you must eat clean! Your diet will
make or break your goals. I have known guys to run the Deca,,
Test,,and D-bol cycle,,hell even I've done it,, and cut nicely. But
then again,,I ,,or,,the other guys did'nt gain that much. 12 to 20
lbs. tops. but it can be done.

Now as Thick1 said,,,these drug esters are mostly used for
Bulking,,and work very well. If you where go with a
Prop,,,Tren,,and winny cycle,,,Now,,Lol you'd get much better cutting results on this.

Good luck bro,,and keep us posted on your gains.

HHH

 

[spywizard]

nolva and ldex will keep alot of bloat down.. deca = more bloat...

test is test.. yes............. but more bloat with cyp,

best cutter would be

good clean food.............

test prop 75mg ed.. issue........ ed injections
tren (fina) 75mg ed.. issue.........ed injections.

now that's a cutter.........

but if you don't want to run the tren...

500mg test e
400mg eq

clean diet you will have great results...