Opiods and benzodiazepine affect on muscle growth

[Cruel.intention]

How do "muscle relaxants" affect muscles? Can taking "muscle relaxents" hinder the the workout and therefor growth? thanks for your input.

 

[dakoteyah27]

I would think so. When I was taking flexeril or any narcotics I didn't want to do shit. I don't know mabe its me but I always felt like a weak little bitch on them.

 

[The Deuce]

I am prescribed both.. due to medical conditions.. and hahaha.. trust me.. I have ZERO muscle hindrance growth, still all the motivation (motivation isn't killed by a pill or pills or any medicine, motivation is killed by ONE THING......... LACK OF !!) .... I have been prescribed anti-panic attack medication for over 7 years.. and on a daily Opiod for the past 15 months.. AND I have made more progress in my physique in the past 18 months than I have 10 yrs.

SO No, they have no effect from what I can tell on muscle tissues..

 

[dakoteyah27]

LOL! I guess when I took' em they were for shit I either pulled, tore, or compressed. I guess it would depend on the person then but Duece no offense but all the shit you say you take would have me tranced out into another world and slobbering all over myself. I mean you've gotta have a tolerance that surpases the majority if not all of us here brother.
LOL.

 

[The Deuce]

What can I say........ im well adjusted I guess.... :/

 

[mickdoo]

Long term bezo use causes cognitive defects in the brain. Long term opiate use makes you lazy,fat and dopey. Everywhere you go you always take your pills with you. When fully addicted ,fully addicted means both mentally and physically you literally are a slave to the drug. It is your master. Yes some people need them for medical reason. A great deal of time the drugs cause more medical problems than they solve. I took both for 4 years after failed back surgery. AFter my back was fixed with another surgery I removed them from my life. This was extremely hard. Literally took months till I felt good again. The only thing that really helped was massive cardio and exercise and I still take the amino L-tryptophan. I felt this helped very much in relaxing me in a natural way. This is a door that if you open you will be sorry. Now the benefits are great if you use them short term. Short term I mean no longer than a few days. Then thats it with weeks break in between. Otherwise these chemicals with f--- you up. Now on muscle growth. Opiods destroy t levels in the body. Enough said. My opinion is that both of these compounds will hinder growth and potential in other areas of life. Like relationships,earning money etc,etc.

 

[dakoteyah27]

In all honesty I think Duece is actually a sliver from the majority that can pull it off. I've actually seen pics of him posted on here that was taken after one of his accidents and still appears to be a mass monster. Even through his recent misfortunes, I know this guy still trains hard. I think its pretty hardcore. Props.

 

[The Deuce]

Thanks Dakoteyah !! Yah, I know I need these things CURRENTLY but Hopefully phasing them out eventually. I do NOT let them hinder my personal life, my work, my training, my diet, my ANYTHING. I just Need them to get by. I need the benzo's as a preventative measure to major panic attacks and my agoraphobia (which means I can't be around a lot of people, and feel safest in the security of familiar Places.. I.e.- HOME, and I have turned MY GYM into one of these Sanctuaries of solitude.)

My Life focus is UPON becoming a Mass Monster. Be that as it may, yes. I am dependent to a medication. But you'd never know it. You would Never be able to tell meeting me in person, talking with me, or just being a passer by and watching me go about my daily activities that I am on these medications..

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THERAPEUTIC and ABUSE and RECREATIONAL. That is where I think people get so caught up and confused. Just because these substances cause dependency issues doesn't mean they have to alter the course of human interaction, life, and Progress. They can be utilized as a TOOL to do what you must until it is time you come off of said medications. I will OBVIOUSLY phase the Pain medication out Sooner than Later.. but honestly. Because of my PTSD (Getting Slammed by a Chevy 2500HD, Being shot at, being stabbed, and being beaten down by a Mob of people over the course of life *not to mention there are other events in my life* but anyone that is gone through HALF of what I have would have Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and PANIC ATTACKS .. I don't know IF I will be able to phase myself off of the benzodiapine medications. Sometimes, I don't need to take it at all.. JUST HAVING THE PILL ON ME PREVENTS THE ONSET OF A PANIC ATTACK.. How silly huh?

I will promise each and every one of you right now though. I will be a Professional Bodybuilder. I will be a Recognized Mass Monster. This is my Calling. This is My Life. This is WHO I AM, and I refuse.. to let some stupid little pill determine any outcome of my life...

 

[dakoteyah27]

Now THAT, my brothers and sisters, is what the fuck I'm talkin about right there!!!!!!

That takes some of the huge balls to be able to take those heavy ass meds and be able to be responsible enough to not let them be the center of your life. I my self got rolled over and pinned between a trailer full of concertina wire and a HMMV. Spent almost two months at Walter Reed in DC and was living of Lortabs and all sorts of heavy shit. For three year they were the center of my life. But the minute I started weening, my recovery started doubling. I went from wheelchair, to crutches, to cane, to walking like an old man, to walking..... you get the point. And you know What? Even I have my days when the back starts really tweaking and I always have meds just in case.

As far as having them on hand just in case.... Think of it as an Epipen for those that go into anaphylactic shock. Do they need it all the time? Hell no, but when you need it, you really need it. Your case is no different Deuce.

Judging from your past pics, if you were to get to level of the before the crash pic........ and pack more mass on...... Jeeezus man, I know you would go really far bro.

So thats alittle bit of history from me. Take it for what its worth and Deuce, keep on rock and rollin' and eventually I know I'll be seeing your big ass up on the big boys stage, champ.:gold:

 

[Cruel.intention]

Thanks Dakoteyah !! Yah, I know I need these things CURRENTLY but Hopefully phasing them out eventually. I do NOT let them hinder my personal life, my work, my training, my diet, my ANYTHING. I just Need them to get by. I need the benzo's as a preventative measure to major panic attacks and my agoraphobia (which means I can't be around a lot of people, and feel safest in the security of familiar Places.. I.e.- HOME, and I have turned MY GYM into one of these Sanctuaries of solitude.)

My Life focus is UPON becoming a Mass Monster. Be that as it may, yes. I am dependent to a medication. But you'd never know it. You would Never be able to tell meeting me in person, talking with me, or just being a passer by and watching me go about my daily activities that I am on these medications..

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THERAPEUTIC and ABUSE and RECREATIONAL. That is where I think people get so caught up and confused. Just because these substances cause dependency issues doesn't mean they have to alter the course of human interaction, life, and Progress. They can be utilized as a TOOL to do what you must until it is time you come off of said medications. I will OBVIOUSLY phase the Pain medication out Sooner than Later.. but honestly. Because of my PTSD (Getting Slammed by a Chevy 2500HD, Being shot at, being stabbed, and being beaten down by a Mob of people over the course of life *not to mention there are other events in my life* but anyone that is gone through HALF of what I have would have Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and PANIC ATTACKS .. I don't know IF I will be able to phase myself off of the benzodiapine medications. Sometimes, I don't need to take it at all.. JUST HAVING THE PILL ON ME PREVENTS THE ONSET OF A PANIC ATTACK.. How silly huh?

I will promise each and every one of you right now though. I will be a Professional Bodybuilder. I will be a Recognized Mass Monster. This is my Calling. This is My Life. This is WHO I AM, and I refuse.. to let some stupid little pill determine any outcome of my life...

Wow dude Hail to the Deuce baby!!!