Planning a cycle

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Need some help planning out my second cycle. My first one was pretty light of test e 300mg for 12 weeks. I still want to keep this one relatively light and i liked the test e so im going to incorporate that again. I was thinking something along the line of 500mg of test e for 10 weeks and I have a choice between anavar or tbol as an oral to jumpstart the process. I have arimidex available as well and clomid for pct. How would you guys set this up?
 
If you want a jump start oral I wouldn't use anavar or tbol IMO. I would do:

1-12 Weeks
Test E 500mg

1-4 Weeks
Dbol
 
Need some help planning out my second cycle. My first one was pretty light of test e 300mg for 12 weeks. I still want to keep this one relatively light and i liked the test e so im going to incorporate that again. I was thinking something along the line of 500mg of test e for 10 weeks and I have a choice between anavar or tbol as an oral to jumpstart the process. I have arimidex available as well and clomid for pct. How would you guys set this up?

What were the results of the first cycle?
 
There is no need to use more for your second than you did for your first. I don't know how that idea came to be so widely accepted. The goal is to grow on as little as possible. If you're doing 500mg for your second, where will you be on your 10th? I can grow slowly at 500mg a week..
 
I exploded at 500mg but I have my diet down pretty tight and my workouts are well laid out. Now at 750mg I'm seeing almost a plateau in growth but I'm not eating for mass right now. I havent gone up in weight at all since I bumped it up but people say I look massive. I guess I recomped a lot. Just added some winny so I'm planing on a bigger change.
 
I exploded at 500mg but I have my diet down pretty tight and my workouts are well laid out. Now at 750mg I'm seeing almost a plateau in growth but I'm not eating for mass right now. I havent gone up in weight at all since I bumped it up but people say I look massive. I guess I recomped a lot. Just added some winny so I'm planing on a bigger change.

I think we need pics!! Lol
 
First cycle went pretty well i went from about 170-195, after my pct and everything i stayed constant at 180. I didnt have too specific of a diet but i kept the junk food and liqour out and tried to eat as much as possible and got around 25g of protein per meal
 
Jump start might have been the wrong word to use , out of the two orals which do you think would best fit with a test cycle?
 
Jump start might have been the wrong word to use , out of the two orals which do you think would best fit with a test cycle?

doesnt matter which one you use..both are good orals if they are legit ...I personally like either one, but for you maybe the tbol would be a good fit for now...strengh gains, more fullness, roundness, ect...so do something like this...

300mg test e every 5th day...weeks 1-12
10mg tbol weeks 1-2
20mg tbol weeks 3-4
30mg tbol weeks 5-8
cycle back down like previous...20mg for 2 weeks, 10mg for 2 weeks

most of your gains on this cycle will come around week 4 to 8-10...once you get bloodlevels up to where they need to be, with good diet, and training you should be growing like a baby...good luck
 
Im following the protocol chris laid out and everything's going good so far , im up about 15 pounds right now. Only issue ive had was painful back pumps during squats and deads from the tbol but i started supplementing some taurine and so far the pain has gone down. Ill post a progress picture in the next few days here
 
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