Please help on new cutting cycle??????

[chris277]

Hey everyone, i had to change my whole routine and cutting cycle up last week because I broke my leg in a car accident. I cant do any aerobics or anything, so this is the new one, help and opinons please...

5ft 9inch 225 16% bf,,, goal 7%
5 days week weights in the morning
week 1 thru 10 750mg Test Enth.
week 9 thru 15 200mg week Parabolan
. Now what do you guys think for a cutter?? I thought about some T3 and T4, could i take those together??? calories are about 2000, and dropping 100 per week till around 14 or 1500. Since i cant do aerobiics is that a good idea?? I was thinking the test would hold onto muscle and thyroid would burn it off. Is this good??? Anything else out there burn fat like mad. (except DNP, tried it a couple times, didnt like it) Thanks bros. Any help on my goal would be appreciated. BTW, also got some appetite suppresents, whats everyones fav.??

 

[jaywooly]

Getting down to 7% is a pretty tall order since you can't do cardio.

You can't even do leg workouts. Honestly, I'd wait and hold on to that gear until I could do it right.

To answer your question though, have you considered clen.

But I would think strongly about just waiting so you can do it right.

 

[brew]

My advice to you is take this time and heal that leg. I'm sorry, but I severly doubt you will come close to your goal with zero cardio. Thats alot of weight to shed. Also, when you do do it, run the parabolan the whole way thru.

 

[chris277]

So you guys think I should hold off then? Man that bites ya know!! Also run the parabolan all the way?

 

[QueenofDamned]

Hey everyone, i had to change my whole routine and cutting cycle up last week because I broke my leg in a car accident. I cant do any aerobics or anything, so this is the new one, help and opinons please...

5ft 9inch 225 16% bf,,, goal 7%
5 days week weights in the morning
week 1 thru 10 750mg Test Enth.
week 9 thru 15 200mg week Parabolan
. Now what do you guys think for a cutter?? I thought about some T3 and T4, could i take those together??? calories are about 2000, and dropping 100 per week till around 14 or 1500. Since i cant do aerobiics is that a good idea?? I was thinking the test would hold onto muscle and thyroid would burn it off. Is this good??? Anything else out there burn fat like mad. (except DNP, tried it a couple times, didnt like it) Thanks bros. Any help on my goal would be appreciated. BTW, also got some appetite suppresents, whats everyones fav.??

i will tell you right now, your caloric intake is too low. i diet on 16-1700 calories a day, FOR CONTEST PREP.

all you are gonna do is slow your metabolism down, causing your body to burn muscle instead of fat. i kid you not.....i really think you need to go over your diet, you are gonna run into problems.

as far as T-3 goes, it's not a good thing to manipulate your thyroid unless you absolutely have to, again, you will run into problems if you are not careful. i will only run it for 8 weeks MAX if i need to pre-contest, even then, im only running 25micrograms a day and make sure i taper off very slowly.....

whats the breakdown of your daily macronutrients?

 

[Cordoba]

I agree with QOD your calories are way to low for your size, I havent started my cutter yet and I have already lost 5lbs of fat @ 3700kcal per day. Once I start my cutter I will slowly lower calories and get as low as 3000 but no lower.

 

[chris277]

What would you guys suggest for caloric intake then?? I thought since I am not doing any cardio that I would have to lower it more than usual?? Isnt times 10 a good number for cutting?? The macros are like this....

Protein 50%
Carb 25%
Fat 25%

What do ya think?

 

[QueenofDamned]

What would you guys suggest for caloric intake then?? I thought since I am not doing any cardio that I would have to lower it more than usual?? Isnt times 10 a good number for cutting?? The macros are like this....

Protein 50%
Carb 25%
Fat 25%

What do ya think?

you need to know your lean body mass, multiply that by 11, then add 3-400 calories. this will be your caloric goal.

you need to be taking in 1.5-2gms of protein per day. are you taking in EFA;s? you need them.

either drop the carbs or fat, your choice...it's much easier to drop the carbs, then, you can have a cheat day once a week.

tell me what you figure your lean body mass would be, i will do the math for you

 

[chris277]

man i appreciate the help... Mmmm lean body mass maybe is 190. pounds. would be if I were 0% BF I think, so do i multiply that be 7%??? I cant remember the formula. Thanks for the help. What do you think about the juice and just the weights? Will I still be able to trim up?

 

[Cordoba]

QOD is right on, either a all fat and protein or a all carb and protein. I would do cardio first thing in the morning start off a few times per week and increase it up to ever morning.

 

[chris277]

I would love to do the cardio, but since my leg is broke that kinda sucks. Which one do you guys think is best, cut the carbs, or cut the fat???

 

[QueenofDamned]

I would love to do the cardio, but since my leg is broke that kinda sucks. Which one do you guys think is best, cut the carbs, or cut the fat???

cut the carbs. you NEED essential fatty acids in your diet. and if your caloric breakdown is done correctly, your body will switch over to EFA;s for energy.

you should be getting about 3 tablespoons of flax per day. one tablespoon = 14gms of fat = 126 calories. so, three tablespoons will be 378 calories.

flax WILL help you lose weight. besides all the other things it's great for, it will "trick" your body into thinking it has more than enough fats (your body will not store EFA's as fat, it will utilize them for energy) therefore, causing you to use stored fats as energy as well.

 

[chris277]

Ok so cut the carbs then and replace with EFA's Should I change my ratios up a bit then??? What would be a better ratio? Also what in your opinion is the most anti-catabolic steroid?? I was using test because i thought that might be the best to hold onto muscle with dieting and using T3. What do ya think??

 

[QueenofDamned]

Ok so cut the carbs then and replace with EFA's Should I change my ratios up a bit then??? What would be a better ratio? Also what in your opinion is the most anti-catabolic steroid?? I was using test because i thought that might be the best to hold onto muscle with dieting and using T3. What do ya think??

i think that you don't need to run t-3 unless you are needing to pre-contest, get yourself on a ECA stack three times a day instead.


you may be one of those individuals that tends to hold water on test. if you feel you need to run test while dieting and tend to hold water, use suspension.

a good diet/cardio/training program and an ECA stack three times a day will burn fat off you without facking with your thyroid (something you don't want to do unless it's nessicary) also, make sure you are getting 2gms of protein per lb. of lean body mass...this is very important.

 

[chris277]

I appreciate the help and changes to my program. So you dont think the T3 is necessary to get down to a 7% bf? Does it still burn muscle even with test?? I thought of getting some nolva or proviron for the water retention?? good idea?

Thanks Chris,

BTW I am definately taking your advice, saw your pics on the other post. you know what your talking about sexy!!

 

[6RAW]

VERY GOOD POST!! QueenofDamned, Where do you get your flax at?

 

[QueenofDamned]

VERY GOOD POST!! QueenofDamned, Where do you get your flax at?

you can buy it anywhere. supermarkets, healthfood stores.....get the liquid and use tablespoons, you get capsules and youre looking at taking 14 capsules (@1000mgs a cap) for the equivalent of ONE tablespoon of flax.

 

[QueenofDamned]

I appreciate the help and changes to my program. So you dont think the T3 is necessary to get down to a 7% bf? Does it still burn muscle even with test?? I thought of getting some nolva or proviron for the water retention?? good idea?

Thanks Chris,

BTW I am definately taking your advice, saw your pics on the other post. you know what your talking about sexy!!

i don't think it's a good idea to manipulate your thyroid at ANY time unless you absolutely have to. 7% is pretty shredded, @ 7% you are gonna have striations in your glutes, if your not competing, why go so low in bf?

nolvadex works great for water retention IMO @ 20mgs a day. proviron works great too, but isn't as cost effective.

the two compound COMBINED work GREAT for hardening up.....but that can be quite costly.

BTW~thanx maybe if you a good boy i will post another one

 

[chris277]

do you think 7% is to low QOD?? I just want to get lean and try to maintain that percent. I want to have a six pack of abs so i was told to get abs you have to be below 10% right?? Like 6 or 7% What do you think is a good bodyfat for that. Maybe a little higher like 9% ???? Thanks so very much for all the help. !!

Chris

 

[QueenofDamned]

do you think 7% is to low QOD?? I just want to get lean and try to maintain that percent. I want to have a six pack of abs so i was told to get abs you have to be below 10% right?? Like 6 or 7% What do you think is a good bodyfat for that. Maybe a little higher like 9% ???? Thanks so very much for all the help. !!

Chris

10% IS quite cut. you can't rely on bf callipers, they are NOT accurate. the only accurate fat calliper is a tank, which are usually available at universities (im not sure the cost of having them test your bf %, or if they will even do it)

guys seem to think these pro's that get on stage, compete @ 3-4%bf, truth is, you couldn't function too well...youre getting into fat deposits that "cushion" your internal organs....

7% is having striations in your glutes, cross-striated quads....contest shape.

my first contest i ever did (many moons ago) i had a "fat callipur" done, it said i was 8% i didn't have any cuts in my legs and i was 100% natural.....i was probably sitting at around 13% now that i look back. you can't trust callipurs.

use your mirror my friend, if you can "pinch an inch" you are still carrying bodyfat.