scar tissue injection

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dorian123

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quick question, I read quite a few post that state a person has a better chance of getting an abcess or infection when injecting into scar tissue...why??? Does it have to do with the body's inability to absorb the oil?

also, these scar tissue lumps on my glute is really starting to piss me off...was wondering if there is any possibility that they could be miniture sterile abcesses? Not swelled up or anything just feels like a few really hard lumps about the size of marbles under the skin.
 
Well I think that is because there is nowhere for the oil to disperse.
I have a lot of scar tissue in both of my glutes from lots of year of poking my ass cheek - I have to be careful I don't inject in the exactly the same place. I have heard some guys get it massaged out. I don't think they are abscesses.
 
I've got a couple left in my quads and ass. I had a couple in my shoulders. I use ultrasound and with regular usage they'll go away. I've just been lazy recently. Get an ultrasound machine.
 
I've got a couple left in my quads and ass. I had a couple in my shoulders. I use ultrasound and with regular usage they'll go away. I've just been lazy recently. Get an ultrasound machine.

yeah you prompted me into looking into it

Ultrasound machine-$140
Abcess-$40,000
 
Is there any medical use or will the ultrasound machine help for tendonitis around the elbow and forearm?
 
Is there any medical use or will the ultrasound machine help for tendonitis around the elbow and forearm?

For that I'd say get the Tommy Kono bands. From what I understand the knee bands are also for the elbows. If they help elbows half as much as knees the pain will be gone in a couple weeks. You aren't supposed to use ultrasound around bone. You could probably do the lower tricep tendon, brachioradialous, and lower bicep tendons. I have no first hand experience with tendinitis in those areas since my high school wrestling days.
 
So you actually own the LG Pro Series Clinical Ultrasound device sold by LG? How long have you had it, anything negative?

That sounds very expensive and I don't think thats the unit I have. The one I do have I can't say enough about. I had a TON of scar tissue in my left pec from a rupture about 10 years ago. I had limited movement and my strength was still very low. I also had issues tearing scar tissue at least once every few workouts that would set me back. Since using it, most of the scar tissue is gone. Strength is back up and constantly increasing, no scar tissue tears, much better mobility and it even looks alot better.
The machine is also incredible for minor injuries. A small quad, tricep, hamstring, etc sprain that would normally require a few weeks of babying now is totally healed by my next workout.
 
The utilization of ultrasound has been a 20th century phenomenon. *In addition to its use by the military to detect submarines, it was also used in the 1930's *for emulsification, and atomization of particles in a gas. *Since then, ultrasound *has been used therapeutically for its effects of cavitation,*stable and unstable bubble formation, and a phenomenon called acoustic streaming or microstreaming.

Ultrasound is used to:



break up scar tissue and adhesions
reduce inflammation, swelling and calcium deposits
create a deep heat to a localized area to ease muscle spasms (much deeper than can be achieved with a hot pack - up to 5 cm)*
increase soft tissue extensibility prior to stretching and exercise
facilitate healing at the cellular level
speeds metabolism and improves blood flow
reduces nerve root irritation
at low intensities can speed bone healing
enhance transcutaneous drug delivery by phonophoresis

The main piece of equipment is a high-frequency generator, which provides an electrical current through a*cable to a transducer which contains a piezoelectric crystal. This crystal when exposed to the current will vibrate at a given frequency,**expanding and contracting, which produces the necessary compression wave. *By using a different frequency *the thOerapist can target tissues at different depths for either healing or destruction, *or simply use the device to reduce pain. Although simple in principle, the use of ultrasound as a therapeutic modality requires a comprehensive *understanding of its effects on the body tissues and of the physical mechanisms by which its effects are produced. *The lower the frequency used, the deeper is the penetration of the waves into the body. By varying the frequency from continuous to intermittent, the amount of heat applied can likewise be controlled by the physiotherapist.

For instance, contusions are one of the most frequent and debilitating injuries encountered in sports medicine. Although contusions may be caused by shearing and tension between over-stressed body parts, the most common cause is compression of soft tissue, usually when it is crushed between bone and some hard*surface. This almost invariably involves capillary rupture and infiltrative bleeding, followed by edema and inflammation. *This usually involves hematoma *or "pooling" of blood, and occasionally myositis ossificans can result as a complication if not treated. This is a* syndrome in which the body starts laying down painful calcium deposits within the muscle. *Quick and effective treatment is crucial in sports injuries. Proper and efficient healing is essential to the health and career of any athlete, regardless of how minor or major the injury. Basic treatment involves the application of ice to contain the immediate inflammation, followed by timely applications of ultrasound to reduce the subsequent edema and further stimulate the healing process.

Ultrasound is effective in treating wounds in both the inflammatory and the proliferative stages. Ultrasound causes a degranulation of mast cells resulting in the release of histamine. Histamine and other chemical mediators released from the mast cell are felt to play a role in attracting neutrophils and monocytes to the injured site. These and other events appear to accelerate the acute inflammatory phase and promote healing.

In the proliferative phase of healing, ultrasound*effects fibroblasts and stimulates them to secrete collagen. This accelerates the process of wound contraction and increases the tensile strength of the healing tissue. *Connective tissues will elongate better if both heat and stretch are applied. Continuous ultrasound at higher therapeutic intensities provides an effective means of heating deeper tissues prior to stretching them.
Its effectiveness has been enhanced over the years by studies which help determine optimum techniques and patterns of application, and a wide range of injuries have shown to be responsive to this* non-invasive therapy.


REFERENCES

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Speed CA (2001). Therapeutic ultrasound in soft tissue lesions. Rheumatology, 40(12): 1331–1336

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Rantanen J, Thorsson O, Wollmer P, et al. (1999) Effects of therapeutic ultrasound on the regeneration of skeletal myofibers after experimental muscle injury, Am J Sports Med* 27(1): 54-59 *

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We use ultrasound to break up post operative scar tissue in the clinic routinely.. It will work for this application well. I want to caution you if you feel there may be an abcess in the same area. The ultrasound may drive the infection deeper into your body.
When was the last time you have taken an antibiotic?
I would suggest a course of doxycyclin prior to taking the ultrasound to that area...
 
To answer your other qyestion. It does not increase your chances of infection if you inject into scar tissue. It will only make it more difficult.
 
Hell, I go through scar tissue all the time. You're all good

well that's what I thought too, get an abcess and see how it changes your views

personally I would think that as long as everything is sterile you should be OK but the ultra sound machine is cheap so why not take advantage of it?
 
Yea, I'm definitely going to get one the next time I get paid if not the one after that. I have enough anti-biotics stashed around that I take them everytime I feel like something might be infected
 
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