Sub Q TRT - 20% better results???

[thudgens96]

I do it lol

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If you don't mind me asking how much a week and how are you splitting

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[jimbosmith316]

If you don't mind me asking how much a week and how are you splitting

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I was doing 100mg prop everyday for the first week, now doing 100mg eod. 3-4 pins a day. I wouldn't do it again without a longwr ester for sure.

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[thudgens96]

I was doing 100mg prop everyday for the first week, now doing 100mg eod. 3-4 pins a day. I wouldn't do it again without a longwr ester for sure.

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Do you feel their was enough benefit to keep doing it that way? How many mgs do you think you could do at once

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[jimbosmith316]

Do you feel their was enough benefit to keep doing it that way? How many mgs do you think you could do at once

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I dont do more than 1/3 of a ml in one spot so it is a pain. Should get bloodwork back this week. Plus MC IGF

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[trekrider215]

80 mg's of T would have to equal to a gram of T for it to be worth my time doing sub q injections just due to the damn knots that I get. I get these knots from IGF1 and MT2 which are like the smallest amounts, I couldn't imagine how bad it would be with even 1/4cc of Test Enanthate. No thanks.

 

[yellow snow]

80 mg's of T would have to equal to a gram of T for it to be worth my time doing sub q injections just due to the damn knots that I get. I get these knots from IGF1 and MT2 which are like the smallest amounts, I couldn't imagine how bad it would be with even 1/4cc of Test Enanthate. No thanks.

I think you would be surprised by how few time you get knots and they are no worse than an water based peptide. when you get them they suck (in the summer when it is no shirt time) winter time not that big of a deal.

 

[trekrider215]

Also, logic just screams to me that more T would aromatize if it was in the fatty tissue. Since that is where aromatization usually occurs. Your highest concentration of aromatase is in the fatty tissues.

Also sub Q injections absorb much slower, thus stretching the dose, and lowering the peak amount.

Also 80mg of T NEVER can equal 100mg of T. 80mg =80mg , 100=100. That statement alone is what stood out to me from a logic perspective.

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What size pin do you use and what angle do you go in? Does it burn? I am curious.

I just thouhjt about this and i think youre looking at it the wrong way. I think what it mwans is due to the delivery syem he thinks 80mgs sub q is possibly equal to 100mgs intramuscular. This does make sense. For instance if you pin 300 mgs of test versus a 600mg shot, it doesnt mean the 600mgs shot is going to produce twice the test levels in tne blood. Most likely it wont. The amount of actual free test or total test in the blood can be subject to a bunch of variables i think that was his way of saying an 80mg sub q shot would just produce higher vlood levels than that of intramusvular.

Sorry for my ttypinf my phone is acting up.

 

[jimbosmith316]

Both my free and serun levels came back good.

 

[EMW14]

The way I read the part about 80 = 100 is that the 2x per week rather than 1x per week is responsible for that. My doc told me something that supports this: he said if you double the frequency of injections, the rule of thumb is to reduce the total dosage by 40%.

That seems a little drastic to me intuitively, but he's pretty conservative. I can say for sure that last bloodwork was done after a month of 140mg/wk total, split into 80 and 60, serum test levels were very similar to what I've had at 180/wk single injections. So that supports the idea that 2x/wk injections = more mileage.

I'm talking IM njections; I get the nasty hard, bruised lumps from sub Q also. Tried it once with test and have tried it with igf-1 with same results.

 

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Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections vs Intramuscular Testosterone Injections on TRT


In this video I share research on Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections compared to Intramuscular Testosterone Injections. Sub Q Vs IM testosterone injections is a very debated topic in the Testosterone Replacement Therapy community. If you are on TRT or Hormone replacement therapy you should definitely watch this video and find out which is better, Subcutaneous Testosterone Injections or Intramuscular Testosterone Injections.

Links to studies

Female Studies
Serum Testosterone Concentrations Remain Stable Between Injections in Patients Receiving Subcutaneous Testosterone

Mens Studies
Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report. - PubMed - NCBI
Pharmacokinetic Profile of Subcutaneous Testosterone Enanthate Delivered via a Novel, Prefilled Single-Use Autoinjector: A Phase II Study. - PubMed - NCBI
Daily subcutaneous testosterone for management of testosterone deficiency

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