T3 basic dosage protocal?

[Presser]

you should seriously consider runnning igf-1 lr3 during your off training time, it will really help with keeping your gains you made all those months when you were able to hit it hard!

 

[meatdeluxe]

thank you,i will look into that.i know its available where i stay but dont know if their pricey.
my natural testlevel is on the low side(340 something)so i was thinking before of 100mg testo e and 50mg tren e a week,but you say its better with igf-1 lr3?

 

[Presser]

thank you,i will look into that.i know its available where i stay but dont know if their pricey.
my natural testlevel is on the low side(340 something)so i was thinking before of 100mg testo e and 50mg tren e a week,but you say its better with igf-1 lr3?

no no, if you can stay on testosterone during your cruise phase then i certainly suggest that over igf-1 lr3, but if you come off all gear during those work months, the igf-1 lr3 will help keep those gains, now if u can afford both, then test and igf during a cruise low dose when ur working and not training much wouldbe even better.

 

[meatdeluxe]

ok a million thanks!then testo it is.and i read about igf-1lr3 yesterday.its sounds interesting so im gonna consider igf when i go back to work at spring.

 

[Presser]

I just had some solid thyroid drug charts for cytomel, t3 and t4 and the best way to ramp the dosages up and then back down , let me see if i cant find them, also had a solid article on Clenbuterol and thyroid medicine combined with growth hormone, i will see if i cant find it

 

[Presser]

i posted them in the sticky thread in our steroid and bodybuilding articles forum, sorry!

lol

 

[Presser]

for our cytomel t3, and t4 users!

 

[cybrsage]

i posted them in the sticky thread in our steroid and bodybuilding articles forum, sorry!

lol

You are the man, thanks!

 

[Presser]

gracias lol,

 

[Presser]

For most I don't think they are needed. However if you want to use t3 I recommend a t3/t4 combo for optimal results and fewer side effects. Something like 15-20mcg t3 and 100mcg t4 should be gtg.

Can You explain why you get better results and few side effects when you add t4 to your t3 or run them together like this?

 

[Presser]

Anyone here run t3 without ramping it up and back down again? Reading a lot of people are now just taking it and stopping, no ramping either way, nor just one way, which in my experience over the years, was always taught at least you must ramp cytomel t3 down at the end. Ramping up was never as vital though, but most ramped both ways and ALWAYS DOWN

Am i missing any new T3 Best Practices here?

 

[cybrsage]

The PubMed studies on thyroid function and recovery from long term use of thyroid medicines simply stopped cold turkey. In all cases, some of which was thyroid medicine used for years, the thyroid recovered.

I can see ramping down though if you are using very high levels so that you can slowly bring the body back down to normal levels. When you do stop he is it'll still take a week or so before the body turns the thyroid back on.

 

[Presser]

thnx brutha, feel free to post those Studies on t3 and thyroid recovery whenever or if ever you come across those again, I know we have a bunch here, but not too many recent t3 or t4 publications

 

[cybrsage]

Here are some:

Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prolonged thyroid-suppression therapy.

Vagenakis AG, Braverman LE, Azizi F, Portinay GI, Ingbar SH.
Abstract

<abstracttext>The pattern of thyrotropin secretion was analyzed in seven euthyroid women, before and after withdrawal of long-term thyroid hormone, by serial measurements of thyroid 131l uptake, serum thyroxine, tri-iodothyronine, and thyrotropin concentrations, and the response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone. During exogenous hormone administration, 131l uptake was suppressed, and serum thyrotropin concentrations before and after administration of thyrotropin-releasing hormone were undetectable. After withdrawal of exogenous hormone, thyrotropin secretory function was transiently impaired, as indicated by undetectable basal thyrotropin concentrations together with absence of response to thyrotropin-releasing hormone, and subsequently by normal values of basal thyrotropin concentration and normal responses to releasing hormone while serum thyroxine and tri-iodothyronine concentrations were subnormal. Decreased thyrotropin reserve persisted for two to five weeks. Detectable values of serum thyrotropin (less than 1.2 muU per milliliter) and a normal 131l uptake usually occurred concurrently in two to three weeks. Serum thyroxine concentration returned to normal at least four weeks after hormone withdrawal.

</abstracttext>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/808728/

This one says basically the same thing:

Normal increments of T4 and T3 after TRH occurred at 19 ± 5 and 22 ± 6 days, respectively.

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1210/jcem-41-1-70?journalCode=jcem#sthash.uCopg3WC.dpuf



I found it is better to take T3 at night than in the morning!

Effects of evening vs morning thyroxine ingestion on serum thyroid hormone profiles in hypothyroid patients

Conclusions:
l-thyroxine taken at bedtime by patients with primary hypothyroidism is associated with higher thyroid hormone concentrations and lower TSH concentrations compared to the same l-thyroxine dose taken in the morning. At the same time, the circadian TSH rhythm stays intact. Our findings are best explained by a better gastrointestinal uptake of l-thyroxine during the night.

http://www.thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/research/Thyroid-Medications.html

 

[Presser]

Here is a little link on HGH usage having a negative impact on your thyroid, and why many who decide to cycle human growth hormone only do so accompanied by t3 cytomel.

Timing and dosage Information for HGH, Cytomel t3, Growth Factor-1 and Insulin.