I think out of all of the proposed cycles I have viewed on this board in the past few months, I have seen very few people using Tren in the beginning of their cycles. Why is this? If one is using Prop and D-bol as a kickstart, why not also Tren? It is fast-acting, much like D-Bol and Prop, and if immediate strength is what is desired in the first few weeks, at least until the test and other gear kick in, wouldn't Tren be a popular choice?