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Smoosycyday

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Here is what I plan for my next cycle. Goal is strength and lean bulk. I'm 5'10 250lbs. 3rd real cycle. I want to bench 525lbs and deadlift 725lbs both raw. (current max's are 470 and 650)

1-14 Sust 100mg eod
1-6 Tren ace + Tren e 125mg eod
*7-10 Tren ace 125mg eod
1-3 + 11-14 Masteron 50 eod

Anti-e (Letro) probably run at .75mg ed, and anti-p on hand

Pct: Day 1-30 .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

Any suggestions?
 
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body2see said:
Pretty solid, Id run a liver protectant and dostinex simultaneously also, are you concerned about hair loss??
Well I still have a full head of hair and I look real ugly with my head shaved... so I am a little.
 
BiggerStronger said:
That's a lot of tren. I would keep an eye on the side effects. Night sweats, acne, etc.
Yes that's 437.5mg per week. I will definitely lower it if the sides are too much. I'm not prone to acne at all, but sweating might be a problem. I already sweat a lot normally. But I'm more concerned with gyno, hair loss and kidney toxicity.
 
Presser said:
looks like a good cycle bro! keep us posted on progress
Thank you! Hopefully I will look good enough to post pics during the cycle. I will take pre-cycle pics as well to have a starting point reference.
 
teras said:
Yes that's 437.5mg per week. I will definitely lower it if the sides are too much. I'm not prone to acne at all, but sweating might be a problem. I already sweat a lot normally. But I'm more concerned with gyno, hair loss and kidney toxicity.
well then tren e is a bad choice if your looking to lower the dose at the first sign of sides..
 
DB006 said:
well then tren e is a bad choice if your looking to lower the dose at the first sign of sides..
Thanks that's true. Well I had in mind to use a combination of tren e and tren ace for the first 6 weeks, and I could always cut or reduce the tren ace just in case. (tren ace 75mg and tren e 50mg eod)
 
I was kind of confused about what he was dosing. I thought he meant test enanthate and tren ace, but maybe I was wrong about that. Either way it's still a lot of tren. Also just to note I never experienced gyno before until I ran close to 400mg of tren ace per week. It caused gyno to form and lactating nipples. It wasn't pleasant especially with all of the other side effects I had: Night sweats, acne, etc. Now I wouldn't go over 300mg per week or preferably lower than that. The diminishing returns with Tren happens quite sharply between moderate doses and high doses.
 
BiggerStronger said:
I was kind of confused about what he was dosing. I thought he meant test enanthate and tren ace, but maybe I was wrong about that. Either way it's still a lot of tren. Also just to note I never experienced gyno before until I ran close to 400mg of tren ace per week. It caused gyno to form and lactating nipples. It wasn't pleasant especially with all of the other side effects I had: Night sweats, acne, etc. Now I wouldn't go over 300mg per week or preferably lower than that. The diminishing returns with Tren happens quite sharply between moderate doses and high doses.
Aint that the truth!
 
BiggerStronger said:
I was kind of confused about what he was dosing. I thought he meant test enanthate and tren ace, but maybe I was wrong about that. Either way it's still a lot of tren. Also just to note I never experienced gyno before until I ran close to 400mg of tren ace per week. It caused gyno to form and lactating nipples. It wasn't pleasant especially with all of the other side effects I had: Night sweats, acne, etc. Now I wouldn't go over 300mg per week or preferably lower than that. The diminishing returns with Tren happens quite sharply between moderate doses and high doses.

Well I see people go up to 100mg ED with tren so I chose 125mg EOD to stay somewhat conservative but now I will definitely have to re-think about it. Thank you for the heads up.
 
Yeah, that cycle netted me some serious gains, but also some serious side effects. I was literally losing bodyfat and gaining a ton of muscle on a bulking diet. lol. It was crazy, but the side effects were almost unbearable at some points.
 
teras said:
Well I see people go up to 100mg ED with tren so I chose 125mg EOD to stay somewhat conservative but now I will definitely have to re-think about it. Thank you for the heads up.

Not to mention that the gyno he talked about is progesterone induced gyno--that's the bad kind 'cause it's hard to get rid of. I'd get some anti-p from the MCAS store if I ran the tren high.
 
saudades said:
Not to mention that the gyno he talked about is progesterone induced gyno--that's the bad kind 'cause it's hard to get rid of. I'd get some anti-p from the MCAS store if I ran the tren high.
True true, I did order some anti-p from the muscle chemistry store already 2 weeks ago, as well as some letro and l-dex. I hope to get it soon.
 
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