your on off rule

[big in vegas]

If I did that I would need 1500mgs a week of tren ace to get anything out of it, but taking the time off and dealoing with the effects and training harder I can go back on and get alot out of a little or at least medium dosages. I still need some decent dosages at 6' 230 or so maybe a litte more. Its mainly because prolonged elevated hormone levels in me cause chol, lipids and cvc problems to the liver, heart and digestive system. Thats just me but i keep a close eye on my BP and chol. hdl/ldl is important when staying on for long periods.
Trust me if I could with no problems at all I would. I just dont know how none of you who stay on so long have no issues at all and still get results from the same dosages.

You gotta think that some people just don't pay attention and then again we all respond differently. My BP stays right around the optimal range with Tren A running at 100mg ED

 

[Metal85]

damn u guys are crazy lol

 

[dorian123]

You gotta think that some people just don't pay attention and then again we all respond differently. My BP stays right around the optimal range with Tren A running at 100mg ED

you gotta have the constitution of a horse to pull that off...think the highest I would run was somewhere around 550mg/week

 

[XXXX]

I did 200mgs EOd and it elevated my BP a little but I was so aggressive I would kick the mirrors ass for looking at me wrong. Im just distempered anyways so its not a side it just helped me feel more irritated at little shit, the side effects are really health related than psychological. After being off so long i would resspond well to lower dosages though.

 

[Metal85]

I like to go off off so cruising isnt an option bc I want those receptors to be like NFL recievers, and catch that shit as it gets to them

 

[big in vegas]

I did 200mgs EOd and it elevated my BP a little but I was so aggressive I would kick the mirrors ass for looking at me wrong. Im just distempered anyways so its not a side it just helped me feel more irritated at little shit, the side effects are really health related than psychological. After being off so long i would resspond well to lower dosages though.

I am agreesive naturally so I actually calm down when I'm on even with tren. I've always thought it was mainly because I know I'm gaining and I'm so happy about it that it takes a lot to ruin my "buzz"

 

[big in vegas]

I like to go off off so cruising isnt an option bc I want those receptors to be like NFL recievers, and catch that shit as it gets to them

That's not the first time I've heard you say that :gold:

 

[MightyJohn]

I'm kinda at the crossroads as well...been on 15wks, an oral the last 6...debating weather to go off or just change up some compounds b/c I've been making awesome gains & don't wanna stop LOL

 

[big in vegas]

^^^That's the question everyone deals with...Keep going or stop lol, when you're making gains, it's hard to stop

 

[nuknuk]

Well I always come all the way off.

 

[Metal85]

always trying to make jokes Big, but seriously if the receptors arent working it makes no sense to keep going

 

[Ox 51]

Well, I finished my last cycle a few weeks ago and just finished my PCT this past Saturday. So, I've been all the way off for about four days now and I'm already counting down until I can go back on.

 

[big in vegas]

I come all the way off, but I will taper down for a long time.

 

[big in vegas]

I've bridged though, but anymore I will come all the way off for a little bit. I liked bridging, but I really wasn't getting anywhere with it. I mean I wasn't losing or gaining, but then again when I come off completely, I don't lose enough to really notice anyway so that's why I've begun coming off completely

 

[Metal85]

damn I always lose a shit load of size

 

[big in vegas]

I really don't, but I don't put on massive amounts of gains, maybe around 10 pounds or so which is a lot for me, but I keep a lot of it

 

[XXXX]

I agree big, I came off for a long time and when I went back on strength and size climbed fast I have gaines 13 pounds in 4 weeks and bf went up .6% . My friends notice and asked what im taking i stated it was creatine, glutamine and plenty of food. My receptors are fresh and I have not been on for a long time so im making good gains but couldnt make gains if i was always on, maybe 10 pounds or so at the most.

 

[big in vegas]

I agree big, I came off for a long time and when I went back on strength and size climbed fast I have gaines 13 pounds in 4 weeks and bf went up .6% . My friends notice and asked what im taking i stated it was creatine, glutamine and plenty of food. My receptors are fresh and I have not been on for a long time so im making good gains but couldnt make gains if i was always on, maybe 10 pounds or so at the most.

13 pounds in 4 weeks is a good gain given it's a lot of muscle, if you can keep a lot of that it'll be great. How long are you planning on staying on?

 

[Metal85]

well for me I feel if I even kept 4 pounds per cyc from lets say 4 years ago to now, id naturally weigh like 192-ish lean but that shit isnt the case at all. I will typically go up about 15-20 pounds than when I get to the mid point cut the fat and get to where im at about 10-14 pounds heavier than when I get off I go back down about 12 pounds, but than gain some fat to go back up another 5 pounds. Is that weird? esp considering I taper off slow and do PCT???

 

[big in vegas]

I don't think so, from a few guys I know that's kinda typical