All the DNP info you would ever want to know

mike ross

Registered Member
Some of this is written by me, and for time's sake because Im entirely too busy, ive copy and pasted other stuff. The following is based on personal experience with DNP. Ive used it several times over the last decade from a few different places and honestly this is the best ive felt on it...so here we go

DNP has approximately a 36 hour half life and that means it will build up in your blood over time. Every 36 hours whatever dose you took will be halved. Follow me, so at my current dose of 200mg per day at day 6 my peak blood level will be roughly 550mg ish or so. This is your blood level, not what you are taking

At 200mg per day the sides are minimal and you can stay on for approx 20-30 based on my own personal use, my PhrmD degree, and all the research i have done. I WOULD NOT USE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS!!!!

For those that wanna do blast cycels, be my guest. The sides are terrible, you are constantly burning up, literally your skin is burning. You are red, blotchy. Ive seen some people turn green in color. I do not advise this method unless you absolutely have to for some reason

DNP in women is controversial. I know cheerleaders in college who used low doses of it with no problems. I know other women who've used it, then abused it and ended up with cataracts and vaginal infections due to the fact it offsets the body's pH. If you are a women and you are considering DNP, 20-50mg per day max. If you start to get even the slightest vision problems, immediately discontinue

Benefits of DNP

Its anti-catabolic, its kidney and liver friendly, you receive an immune system boost due to a higher core body temp, and its a non-hormonal way to lose body fat.

At a low dose the most likely sides will be:
Sweating, feeling hot/sticky
Heavy breathing - though i am NOT experiencing this at all
Irregular Sleep Pattern - yeah this sux, but i take Lights out x 2 caps and its all good
Rashes for some people -take an anti-histamine for this such as benadryl
Lethargy - not experiencing this...see my Lovin this DNP post and you'll know why
Decreased Strength - Not seeing this either, but only doing body weight exercises
Increased Hunger - not seeing this either, i using MT2 twice weekly for its nutrient partitioning effects and the shit works, i have to force myself to eat and again this is a non-hormonal change

Other Sides:
DNP will provide a hideous sent of it under your Armpits due to the sweating so always wash under your armpits a couple of times a day

DNP will leave you thirsty simply because you are going to be hot and sweating. Make sure to drink plenty of water. Im drinking a gallon+ per day of water with fresh limes squeezed into it...tastes great

How much weight am I going to lose?

A degree Fahrenheit increase in BMR on DNP is equal to a
120% boosted Caloric-expense!

Yes you read right. Here's one thing to note though, the scale and mirror will lie to you about the weight loss after the first week. DNP tends to make you carry water weight and thats where im at right now. I lost about 6lbs and i measurably and visibly thinner. But the mirror say different and my abdomen looks a little puffy. You should also know that you will be carb depleted so dont expect to looked pumped up. I look totally flat even after body weight stuff. Put your ego in check and get ready to use the depleted state to your advantage when we recomp later on at the end.


Best part about DNP weight loss is that many other people have noticed that after a DNP-cycle even after months less than 50% of the weight loss is gained back. No yo-yo effect. Sure you have to eat right and train, but the weights gone and some research shows that several people were even able to lose more weight after DNP cessation.

Wanna know why DNP works but everyone considers it so dangerous? well here you go

DNP is so dangerous, because it doesn't involve a negative feedback system meaning if there is to much present in the blood there is no way the body can combat that. Your body has no way to fight DNP other than just time...literally waiting it out.

Also it is non-hormonal. Hormonal systems always have a feedback-mechanism.This means that it doesn't affect your body's "setpoint"
which is what your body thinks is your "healthy" weight and thus always wants to return to that point. Some mechanisms in the "setpoint" are still unknown but it mostly has to do with dopamine/adrenaline
and the various Neuropeptides....this is where MT2 use came in for me...MT2 literally has caused me to change my eating habits, i dont crave the same junk i used to. When i eat chocolate chip cookies i stop at 5 instead of the whole box of chips ahoy chunky cookies that i used to eat.

The "setpoint" is best adjusted if weightloss is as gradually as possible. Think about meth, cocaine, phentermine, adipex...they all cause rapid weight loss, but the weight usually comes right back. the body never has a chance to get used to that new weight and adjust the setpoint. DNP weight loss, when done the RIGHT way, is systematic and you can almost predict how much your are going to lose per day. You the know the rise in BMR, therefore with baseline numbers through metabolic testing you can get a fair estimation of the weight loss to expect. DNP also competes with T3 which is a GOOD thing. At cessation of DNP, T3 will spike. This is totally opposite of what a low-cal diet and stimulants would do. That type of weight loss is marred by a few days of declining T3 levels.

Most people supplement certain compounds with DNP. If youve been reading so far, you see i am too. But what you use during this period will also effect your weight loss as well. Thats why ive chosen mt2, chocoamine, ecgc, small amts of caffeine, cissus. Each has it own role. Ive recently added MetaBURN to the mix, simply because it has yohimbine, and that will increase stimulation of fat loss, especially in the love handles area. The gugglesterones in MetaBURN also boost the thyroid for even more weight loss.

Diet - Well this is really simple. The more carbs you eat, the more you burn. You'll cool down for about 30 mins, then the inferno comes. And it will continue until its all burned off. Dont bother using DNP as an excuse to eat like absolute shit and not put weight on. Use if for the right reasons.

Eat plenty of vegetables for the antioxidant properties and the minerals. Drink plenty of water. Up your protein intake slightly. I eat plenty of apples and pineapple daily.

Supplements to consider using while on DNP

Mineral replacements - Especially magnesium and potassium
Multivitamins
Melatonin or antihistamines to aid in sleeping
Taurine - benefits the brain and the heart
Any and all antioxidants as you will be oxidizing stored fat for energy

Cardio - for me ive figured out that running 2 blocks and walking 1 block for a total of 3 miles is right for me. I used to be able to run 3 miles straight, but with the addition of DNP, the heat, the sweating, and the more labored breathing was too much. When i say running, im at 8+mph for my runs. My walk is roughly 3.5-4mph. I suggest 20-30mins of uphill treadmill walking or 10 mins of HIIT for most people. The 10 mins will be brutal but it will torch even more fat and stimulate hormone production further.

Lastly, Ive read about using DNP to come off of cycles. You use it with insulin and its a whole system i believe Dan Duchaine tested and used on himself. There is info around the net on it. Look it up if interested. Since Im not currently on, I not going to recite it here. Maybe in Nov when i hop on the cycle, Ill post it back up..

Feel free to ask me any questions,etc....100mg DNP capsules will be for sale on Apollo Peptides by days end. Its going to be a long day and we have already sold some of it to a few big names doing shows in the near future. More people use it than you think, you just have to find the right source. Anyone that knows me, knows i only give the best. Why ive tried it first before even offering it up to the board.

Thanks guys, have a good one...MR
 
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Interesting read mike! I'm curious (and I know nothing more about DNP than what you just wrote) what's the difference between DNP and Clen. They sound a lot a like? Do you like one over tger other, if so why?
 
They are actually nothing alike mb. Clen is a cns stimulant. Clen and T3 combo might raise your metabolism by 20-30%. DNP does far more. Clen will also not raise your core body temperature to the effect the DNP will. Also, over time and quickly at that, your body builds a tolerance to clen, hence reducing it effects. The same cannot be said for DNP.

If you really have to lose as much fat as possible, theres no comparison IMHO. DNP is far better than clen, the rebound is usually amazing, and many guys i know, including one Chris250 and i know specifically, gain LBM the minute they begin their recomp. The person Im speaking of gained 5lbs on his LBM and he has the BodPod analysis to back it up. Clen's not doing that
 
Very interesting info.

Too bad is a very dangerous product even with a well planning protocol. Something like Insulin, but in the other side of the coin.
 
More people use it than you think, but everything we do and use has consequences. I cant tell you the number of guys i know with shot knees and discs due to lifting too much through the use of gear. Just depends on what youre looking to do.
 
Just placed an order. What doses should you start with? 100mg per day? See how the sides effect you?
 
ive used it before so i started at 200mg...but yes, 100mg per day for 3 days, no rash or ill side effects, then jump up to 200mg per day for a maximum of thirty days...you can private msg me also if you have questions about sides or post them here. i will guide you through everything i can. a log would be sweet too...i couldnt get before pics, but i def look leaner and im gonna start logging body temp throughout the day so guys can see where im at.

thanks for the order btw, going to be adding more to the site each week too....
 
I never thought about logging body temperature...Interesting.

I'll for sure let you know how it feel. I can take all the ECA and Clen with only the slightest sides of hand shaking. I'm not the kind of guy who sweats a lot. I'd run 5 miles in the army and come back from the run and just the slightest bit of sweat showing through my shirt while other guys would be dripping wet.

I want to lose about 20 pounds. So on a clean diet, 30-40 minutes of Cardio a day and 200mg per day of the DNP what weight loss can one expect in a months time?

Thanks for the advice and the thread...
 
probably 15-20lbs...make sure you keep lifting...also, remember you are going to retain water too, so more weight will come off about a week after you stop taking dnp altogether...we'll have to cover some recomp ideas too for you to come back fuller and harder
 
this is something I'll have a few of my guy clients use for the fall and next year spring shows.If done right it is amazing. I've seen guys who use it during prep, and it gets them just downright ripped to the bone...I will be using it myself for my prep next year. To be honest, I probably wouldnt use it, without the knowledge that I got from Mike. But, with him in my corner, he made me understand the in's and out's with it. So I feel very confident about using it on myself and a few clients.
 
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Im going to order some. One concern I have is a guy who used it here some time ago mentioned that you should use it only in the winter when its cold out. So i will probably wait. I get hot easy and sweet like a beast anyway.
 
this is something I'll have a few of my guy clients use for the fall and next year spring shows. If done right it is amazing. I've seen guys who use it during prep, and it gets them just downright ripped to the bone...I will be using it myself for my prep next year. To be honest, I probably wouldnt use it, without the knowledge that I got from Mike. But, with him in my corner, he made me understand the in's and out's with it. So I feel very confident about using it on myself and a few clients.

we're all using it...i cant wait to get back to the gym and gear it up and go back to the 220s days...

for the igf question, the answer is yes...you'll have a brief window where you can uptake the carbs and benefit with the igf...

mkdk...here's really the deal with that comment. if you work in an environment where you can have a fan or moving air on you, its not a big deal. if you work in 107F heat all day outside, well youre gonna be uncomfortable. the key is controlling the variables. I sit in front of the fan all day at the office, but when i move away from it, i sweat. I sweat just waking up though some days.
 
Sounds interesting as hell. I ran clen and t3 once before and when I bumped it up to a higher dose I had a shitty day. I swear I was feeling like I was on fire inside, sweating like a slave and I was swearing up and down that I was running a fever. I checked my temperature and I remember it reading 98.6 lol
 
they work by a different mechanism...i dont feel hot on the inside, i just sweat all day when i leave this fan. My core temp is definitely up also.
 
this is something I'll have a few of my guy clients use for the fall and next year spring shows. If done right it is amazing. I've seen guys who use it during prep, and it gets them just downright ripped to the bone...I will be using it myself for my prep next year. To be honest, I probably wouldnt use it, without the knowledge that I got from Mike. But, with him in my corner, he made me understand the in's and out's with it. So I feel very confident about using it on myself and a few clients.

I agree, i think i posted this in his other dnp thread, but i seen people lose weight so fast that it was absolutly amazing, and I agree must be done right though!
 
I tend to burn fat at a pretty good rate from cardio, carb, and calorie reduction except for the love handles and lower back fat which is becoming harder and harder to get rid of the older I get. Do you think it's worth while to run DPN for less than 30 days? It may not take as long to burn that usually stubborn fat. Also if a shorter cycle is used would there still be the same positive effects after the cycle ends?
 
I tend to burn fat at a pretty good rate from cardio, carb, and calorie reduction except for the love handles and lower back fat which is becoming harder and harder to get rid of the older I get. Do you think it's worth while to run DPN for less than 30 days? It may not take as long to burn that usually stubborn fat. Also if a shorter cycle is used would there still be the same positive effects after the cycle ends?


yes same positive effects...you may want to stack with yohimbine or T2 even as those chemicals target the receptors in the areas you mentioned
 
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