New to steroids

I have always been skinny and fed up of it. I am 6-2 tall and weigh 12 stone. I have always wanted to put on weight so that when i buy new clothes they are going to fit me nice and not hanging on me. I confided in a mate to get me some steroids to help me. I am taking Cypionate and Sustenon. I have 10ml of cypionate and 2 vials of sustenon. I started with the Cyp using 1 ml then the Sus 4 days later and so on. Am i going about this the right way-is there anything else i should take along with these and how long does it take to start working. So far i have had 6 injections-2 Sus- 4 Cyp with no gain in weight at the moment. I would be grateful to find out.

Welcome to MC georgethebear always glad to see new people

Lets see ....uhhh 12 stone .....uhhh thats like 76 kg , and uhhh like 168 pounds for us yanks on the other side of the pond right?

First, of all bro How old are you? That's very Important.

Second, you need to be taking some anti estrogen drugs to prevent your body from converting the testosterone into estrogen and making you grow boobies AKA "Bitch Tits" if you get em it requires surgery to have them removed and it is not cheap 4-6 thousand dollars.

Third, you need to research these different types of testosterone and anti estrogen drugs by reading up on them and asking questions we have a really good forum here at MC
MuscleChemistry Encyclopedia
that go's into the different drugs, not to mention lots of experienced Bros to help with awesome advice

Doesn't sound like you know what you're doing at all. So I'd say no, you are not going about this the right way. I'm not being mean, just honest. It sounds like you are using steroids to get quick results and have never lifted weights seriously before which is a big mistake. You can get huge gains just by diet/excercise when you start out. No need for steroids.

If you were looking for the quick way out to build muscle and thought steroids were the answer and didn't do any research as to how to eat, how to excercise, how much gear you are taking and what kind of Post Cycle Therapy you will need after, you are not ready and need to do a lot more research bro'.

You also noted that you've been taking this "Cycle" for at least 2 weeks or so now with zero gain in weight? What are you eating bro? Gear or not, if you had a proper diet, you'd be gaining weight. This tells me that you aren't eating properly at all and think that just taking steroids will make you get big. This is not true at all. Not by a long shot.

Give us:


Your Age
Your Height/Weight
How Long Have You Been Weight Lifting
A Sample Of Your Daily Diet <------ Important To Gaining Weight
What do you plan on taking after your cycle?
What are your goals

There are a lot of knowledgable vets here that will share their experience and advice with you if you give them more of a background on yourself and what you are hoping to accomplish.

I am 44 years of age , I am 6`2 tall, weigh 172 pounds. I dont go to a gym because my job as a scaffolder keeps me fit with all the heavy lifting involved. My body is all muscle. I am a very strong person but i am very skinny with it. As for my diet i do eat quite a lot, i.e. chicken, steak, potato, pasta and veg. I do not want to look like arnie swarts, i just want to gain a few extra pounds around my legs and chest area and then maybe i can wear a pair of shorts without feeling consious about my legs for once. I will be grateful for any advice on this subject. George....................

You will need to do some progressive resistance exercise even if you work hard on your job. This is particularly true where you are looking for specific improvements to your legs. If nothing else you can do 1-3 sets of Military presses, squats and deadlifts 1x every 7 to 10 days.
I also believe you will definitely need to increase your calories (emphasis on protein) in conjunction with the as and the weightlifting to see actual improvements in the areas you want it.

What i would really like to know is ,the steroids i am using at the moment, are they any good for me, should i be taking anything else with them, what is the best diet and what sort of exercises should i be doing, are there any side effects from sustenon and cypionate, how much and how often should i be taking these.
george........................

okay george i see your frustration. My first cycle was a sust only cycle......gained 20 pounds! I have to admit i didn't gain like i should have and had a little more body fat than i would have liked but shit happens. There are a thousand different drugs that you could take with those two and have better results but the real part is your diet. You should be eating upwards to 350g of protein/day. I know you have heard that a thousand times and that is so fucking hard to do, but get some shakes and drink em up!

the cypionate and sust are gonna be supressive as a mufucker on your natural test levels so you wanna do some PCT (post cycle therapy) using compounds such as nolvadex, HCG, Clomid, femara.....ill let you do the research on those

Meat, protein, meat, and some more protein! Its the best mass builder ever invented...In order to be an animal....you gotta eat one!

I hate to break it to you bud but you job will no way help you to become anymore larger in size. In most case studies when people have been doing the same job for many years they're body gets so accustomed to the physical stress level that is placed on the muscles that they must go above and beyond the everyday work load for muscle growth to occur......now given that these tests weren't done with steroids but i assure you that you will not see good gains from not hitting the gym.
I am a college wrestler......I have been lifting for about 8 years seriously now and every wrestling season, even back in high school, I would lose muscle weight. I don't hit the gym as much as before, my diet starts to suck (no calories, protein or carbs), but we do more push ups, pull ups, sit ups, squat thrusts and a thousand other things that make my shit burn like none before. My point being that you need to hit the gym. In order to promote muscle growth you must create a time frame of around an hour or two and that the stress level on the muscle is concentrated heavily during that time frame. Steady workload all day long will not put size on you, but instead condition your muscles for the days work.

Dosage for the two-

sustanon- Consists of Testosterone propionate 30mg, Testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg, Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg, Testosterone decanoate 100 mg

I would not go over 500 mg a week with this as well, i used it in 2 injections a week....its your discretion

cypionate- Effective dose: 250-1000 mg/week.........don't go 1000 a week tho bro.....you should be fine at 500 or less and i found it good to inject once a week since the half life of the esther is so damn long you never have the lows this way