hey all, new to this site... i've done a couple of cycles in the past, all were pretty much bulking cycles using a combination of test and EQ... this year i've decided to embark on a cutting cycle... i'm already doing winny ED @ 50mg, 5 day low carb, and cardio for an hour 5 days a week... the results are coming along and i was thinking of adding EQ in there with the winny...i have no experience with EQ as a cutting drug, as I only used it with test in the past for mass... my question is how reliable is EQ for cutting? i've read how it improves vascularity and and goes hand in hand with winny for cutting cycles, but what about the increased appetite? i remember when i took it with test and i pretty much ate everything in sight... i also don't want any water retention like test, and i don't really know how much EQ contributed to the water and fat retention as it was stacked with test (enanthate)... the winny is doing good right now, but i still want to maintain the mass i've built from past cycles... btw, my stats were 5'7" 205, now i'm 192 with 6 weeks in with dieting and cardio and two weeks worth of winny... thanks for any input.
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Flexmaster
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eq doesn't bloat me at all. with winny/eq you would notice great hardness, vascularity, appetite, and some small gains. also, if you ran 16 weeks eq with winny 6 on 2 off thant would be great for your tendons because the eq would counteract the winny. as you probaby know a lot of guys tear tendons while on winny lifting anaerobically (in the 6 rep range). i'll bump some info for you from a past thread.
brew
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Where is the test? I would add in either a low dose of eth or my prefence would be 100mg prop ed. I love eq and it would work well in there. but what about tren? If I had to pick one or the other I would say tren 75 ED maybe 50 min. along with the prop and winny thats one hell of a cutter.
i really don't want to add any test just from experience with it before with water retention and such...i've never tried tren before, but just reading about how hard it shuts you down and how it just kills your sex drive...well, i don't think my gf would want any of that...i don't want to blow up like before either with test...i'm happy with the mass i have and i just want to refine myself and get shredded with what i've got... i just want to read some people's experiences with the winny/EQ stack as a cutter so i could go ahead and add the EQ with the winny...
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saudades
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You can take test and not have any water retention. I've used test cyp for almost six years now, and it has never made me retain water. If you're cutting, you'll be eating pretty clean which has a lot do with it. As long as you keep it clean and keep the doses low, you should have no problem.
ok thanks...but does anyone have any experience with the EQ/winny stack only? i don't care about getting any stronger or any bigger with any sort of test, i just want refinement, which is why i am trying to avoid it all together...sustanon was the worst for me..blew up large to 240 @ 5'7". blood pressure was high with really bad nosebleeds...if i were to use a test then it would be either a cyp or enanthate...those didn't gain me crazy weight but made me strong as an ox...but again i don't want to go nuts...i just want small mass gains (if any) with ultimate definition...i'd rather have people not notice if i had gotten any bigger, but then when the shirt's off at the beach, just frikin' shredded...lol
ok...after some much thought, i've decided to run some test in my cutting cycle...i can get my hands on some enanthate and some tren, but i don't think i want to go as far as adding test/tren/winny...yet....i don't want the drastic mass size changes...now my qustion to those who advised test as a base for my cycle, what dose of enanthate should i take a week? again, i don't want to swell up with water retention or any sort of drastic mass change...i just want the refinement with the maintenance of my current mass and strength... thanks for the input :thumbsup:
Southern Comfor
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Damn Body2see, I wanted you to keep me posted on that. PM me with more info!!!! I didnt think your "friend" was gonna hit that cycle for more months lol!
BiggerStronger
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I would up the test e to 500mg test e EW...JMO
100mg every 5 days will shut you down, and most likely would provide worse results than being natural. lol.
100mg every 5 days will shut you down, and most likely would provide worse results than being natural. lol.
I've had good results from doing an EQ and Winny cycle with Clen. I know everyone advocates using test with every cycle but I've done this twice now and gained a few pounds of muscle while losing bodyfat during the same period. I know if I eat clean and get enough protein I can get even more shredded on this cycle.
i opted to use test instead of EQ (which was my first choice) because of the availability of test versus EQ... sourcing real EQ is hard and so i must go with my alternative...i could get tren, but i figured if tren shuts you down as hard as it says it does and then i might as well use it with a mass cycle with larger amounts of test... so now i'm left with my mild doses of test and winny for a cutter...w'ell see how it goes....
