total newbie and i need help

bigdaddyo1617

bigdaddyo1617

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am 5'10" 203lbs 15% i being working out since i was 14yrs old off and on. I played sports all my life. I need some advise on what i can take something not to strong but get the job done. All i want to but another 20-30ibs of lean muscle. Thanks guys
 

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are you wanting to do a cycle or have you ever done one? 20 lbs of lean muscle is a lot to put on even with the strong stuff. what time frame are you looking to do this?
 
All i want to but another 20-30ibs of lean muscle
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Not to strong but get the job done and 30lbs of muscle. That's kind of vague... and a lot of muscle. You lookin at orals or injectables? Have you tried any prohormones like Havoc or epistane?
 
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Gonna say same thing as other guys, 20 lbs is alot of muscle. Bro I would weigh out your goals and decide weather or not taking the plunge would be something you might need to do.
I would love 20 lbs more. But that would mean some serious hormone I take.
Why don't you try doing a small 8 week cy me and see how it works out for you. Make sure you get all anti estrogens I. Order diet needs to be right, training stay consistent.
Test 500 mgs/w
eq 600mg
Superdrol or tbol
 
Thats my end goal i know am now gonna gain that rite off the rip. But i would love to get close to that in that time period. I train 5x a wk my diet i keep it pretty strict. I log everything meals and training.
 
Yeah shooting the test and other shit is easy. Dosing correctly and taking all your ai and serms and pct is the part where people fuck up. You are going to need arimidex for 500mgs test or you will look and feel like a stuffed pig. With test and eq all you will need is arimidex for during cycle, proviron is always a nice addition though. Buy your hcg, nolvadex and or clomid and you will be set to go for pct.
 
Since you've never ran a cycle. I'd suggest doing Test only. And thats only if you diet and training is in check. 500mg a week of like Test E split into 2 doses. Monday and Thursday. .25 Arimidex every other day throughout the cycle. I'd run that for 12 weeks though instead of 8 weeks. Your gonna get the most gains from your first cycle or 2 and cutting it down to 8 weeks is a waste to me brother. Run that Test E, or whatever brand of Test you like, at 500mg a week for 12 weeks and eat and train and sleep!!! Period!!!
 
I agree a test only cycle 500mg week 12 weeks would be good or add just one steriod/PH. What do yall think about igf with a first time cycle?
 
I love MC IGF!!!! I run it all the time. Every 6 weeks I take 7 to 10 days off, then right back on ;)
 
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I love MC IGF!!!! I run it all the time. Every 6 weeks I take 7 to 10 days off, then right back on ;)
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so you think this would be good for first cycle

500mg test weeks 1-12 with adex .5mg eod
igf weeks 1-6
igf weeks 8-13
nolva PCT weeks 14-18 at 40/30/20/10
igf with PCT weeks 14-20
 
I have NEVER pinned (injected)

Everything I read. And I read a lot. Says first injectable cycle should be just Test.
This is in order to mitigate sides and understand how you respond to the test.
Then you can add in other compounds in future cycles using your Test cycle as a baseline.

How old are you?
 
Diet and training will be the biggest things that help you gain 20-30 lbs of muscle in 2-3 years. Just jumping into a cycle might give you some muscle, but it isn't going to worth much without the other things in place.
 
"all you want is" another 20-30 pounds of lean muscle huh lol
Kind of confusing as to why you say that like it's only 3-5 pounds of lean muscle.
 
LOL poor choice of words i guess. U hear all these stories about people gain real large amounts of muscle on these enhancements. I just stated what am looking for and want if it realist or idk. I never took a cycle if i did we wouldn't having this discussion. But thanks for he help and info.
 
Like I said... Considering Diet and Training are in check.... Then and only then can I suggest a 12 week run with Test at 500 mg. If you want to add in IGF, then I see no reason not to due to the fact its not an AAS. I especially like the idea of running it thru PCT. I have suggested this to a few buddies of mine and they have had great success holding onto alot more of their gains.... ;)
 
Dude I like you already. You look pretty descent for being natty and I'd have to say that on most other forums (Not MC) you look like most of the assholes with 4 cycles under their belt who are dishing out advise. My recomendation is since you are 37, try to get TRT prescribed at 200mg per week with HCG on and off. Do that for like 6 months and milk those gains as long as possible and then add in whatever prohormone looks the sexiest to you for 4-6 weeks. Do that three times with a 4 week break in between each prohormone cycle and you should have about 10-20 more lbs of solid mass under your belt in a year - 1.5 year time frame.
 
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