short vs long cycle

dorian123 · Sep 10, 2009

I know that this has been brought up many times before but I'm wondering now...

I have always done 12 weeks on 12 weeks off-the delimma that I have now is whether I should switch to 4 weeks on 4 weeks off

I have tried short cycles before and lost everything when I came off HOWEVER, now I use 325mg/week of test when I'm off and hold everything.

So I was wondering if I would be better off going 4 weeks on 4 weeks cruise

It would go something like this
4weeks heavy-2g/week of test...super test 325 and prop
650mg/week of tren ace
50mg/day of oral winstrol

4weeks cruise-325mg/week of test...super test 325
then repeat

the reason that I'm considering this is...
1) I see a lot of big guys doing this
2)I've lost everything in the past due to short cycles BUT now I run a cruise in between
3)I don't have to try to keep my mind supercharged for 12 weeks-eating big,lifting big, etc
4)I make most of my gains in the 1st 2 weeks
5)I can come off the orals and restart in 4 weeks
6)I can give my injection sites time to relax instead of pinning EOD 12 weeks straight

thoughts and opinions?

NAIR · Sep 10, 2009

This doesn't help bro, i know, but I love love love long cycles. I get way more in terms of progess when I cycle at least 4.5 months

dorian123 · Sep 10, 2009

so your saying keep with long cycles then?

NAIR · Sep 10, 2009

well that's what works for me. So that's what I would do...for what it's worth

Crazymank · Sep 10, 2009

I typically do better with longer cycles.

nuknuk · Sep 10, 2009

dorian123 said:
I know that this has been brought up many times before but I'm wondering now...

I have always done 12 weeks on 12 weeks off-the delimma that I have now is whether I should switch to 4 weeks on 4 weeks off

I have tried short cycles before and lost everything when I came off HOWEVER, now I use 325mg/week of test when I'm off and hold everything.

So I was wondering if I would be better off going 4 weeks on 4 weeks cruise

It would go something like this
4weeks heavy-2g/week of test...super test 325 and prop
650mg/week of tren ace
50mg/day of oral winstrol

4weeks cruise-325mg/week of test...super test 325
then repeat

the reason that I'm considering this is...
1) I see a lot of big guys doing this
2)I've lost everything in the past due to short cycles BUT now I run a cruise in between
3)I don't have to try to keep my mind supercharged for 12 weeks-eating big,lifting big, etc
4)I make most of my gains in the 1st 2 weeks
5)I can come off the orals and restart in 4 weeks
6)I can give my injection sites time to relax instead of pinning EOD 12 weeks straight

thoughts and opinions?

sounds good, good points also. Doesnt hurt to try, You have nothing to lose.

nuknuk · Sep 10, 2009

NAIR said:
well that's what works for me. So that's what I would do...for what it's worth

post a pic and let us be the judge.

dorian123 · Sep 10, 2009

don't know caught between a rock and a hard place-like I said, it didn't work for me in the past but now I'm doing cruise cycles and I've gotten older so my body chemistry has changed

NAIR · Sep 10, 2009

nuknuk said:
post a pic and let us be the judge.

I'm too damn scared to post pics my of little body! Wait til I get a couple months of cell/nitro tech under my belt

dorian123 · Sep 10, 2009

any other opinions? one for yeah and one for nay

MrPerfect · Sep 10, 2009

long cycles i perfer.... winter time, off season
i usually save the short ones for precontest...

but usually when i run a long one ill run lower doses, and for short ones higer doses

dorian123 · Sep 10, 2009

OHH KAYYY, so considering the dosages I'm running long or short?

F1D · Sep 11, 2009

If one plans on running long cycles end on end, then don't plan on coming off.. Use HCG with all long cycles if that's the cause, to avoid perm. shut down....

Crazymank · Sep 11, 2009

fatigue and high blood pressure are what bother me about long cycles.

F1D · Sep 11, 2009

normalsucks said:
fatigue and high blood pressure are what bother me about long cycles.

That too as well as receptors shutting down..

Gains start to tamper off....
10-12 is more common for me, but a 14 weeker is not rare either!

Crazymank · Sep 11, 2009

when i first started doing long cycles, i was very aware of my gains leveling off. Not sure if it was my age back then or what. But now, my gains are slow, but constant.

MrPerfect · Sep 11, 2009

normalsucks said:
fatigue and high blood pressure are what bother me about long cycles.

thats why when i run long ones i keep the doses low

Crazymank · Sep 11, 2009

my next cycle will be a crap load of gear for 8 weeks. So i can compare blood pressure, fatigue, gains.

i've been off my last long cycle for almost 6 weeks. Damn i feel good!!

F1D · Sep 11, 2009

normalsucks said:
my next cycle will be a crap load of gear for 8 weeks. So i can compare blood pressure, fatigue, gains.

i've been off my last long cycle for almost 6 weeks. Damn i feel good!!

there you go bro... stick to prop esters and orals...No reason why one can't make great gains in 8 weeks that way... Just keep on your diet and see what happens!

MightyJohn · Sep 11, 2009

I prefer short with a bridge much like You plan on doing Dorian(I use lower dosages)....but that way there are less sides, I keep more, gear lasts longer & You are kinda never really off so You won't flatten out/shrink

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