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    Hey guys. Looking for some help building my cycle. Iíve done 7-8 cycles before. 5Ē10 205 I have 2000mg of tren a, 2000mg of test p, 5000 mg of test cyp and 75 20mg anavar Let me know what you think the best stack will be please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Hey guys. Looking for some help building my cycle. Iíve done 7-8 cycles before. 5Ē10 205 I have 2000mg of tren a, 2000mg of test p, 5000 mg of test cyp and 75 20mg anavar Let me know what you think the best stack will be please

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    If u cruise or TRT...
    Use
    Test cyp 175mg wk
    Test p 50mg a,day
    Tren ace 50mg preferably 75mg a day
    Get more Anavar... anavar legit I have ran most of year more than once with no issues on labs at all or lipids..
    Use legit anavar at 50mg to 75mg a day

    If u can handle tren at 75mg ace a day best result will come.
    Better to keep prop at 50mg for less tren sides
    If u gotta run less tren 50mg a day with 50mg prop fine....

    Keep test cyp in there it's not high enough to build up will keep all more stable and will keep cruise TRT ready stable at end.

    If u wanna lean bulk first... because I only can handle that stack for 6 wks max because tren messes with my stomach around 4 week mark!!
    Then used test cyp at 600wk for 12 weeks
    And deca 500wk.....

    I would also use anti-p MC Store at 0.5mg 2x wk
    And adex 2-3x wk at 0.5mg or as needed
    Nolva I like at 10mg a day as well or 20mg every 4-5 days works too...

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    MM cycle layout looks good to me, I personally can barely take 75mg tren ace every other day let alone daily, but i have taken that much years ago, and its certainly better daily at 50-75mg so yeah you should see some serious results there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    MM cycle layout looks good to me, I personally can barely take 75mg tren ace every other day let alone daily, but i have taken that much years ago, and its certainly better daily at 50-75mg so yeah you should see some serious results there
    I couldn't handle tren ace either stress would tear me up...
    Lowing test helped alot and being sure if I switched from long ester lean bulk into cut with tren ace, I let test spike come down before adding it with prop.

    But if i can not use Tren, I feel better, it's so powerful that alone scares me. It can't be good. Lol!

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    Everyday fucks with my head. I was thinking 75mg tren and test p eod then 200 test cyp a week. Or do u think I should just leave the test p out and up cyp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Everyday fucks with my head. I was thinking 75mg tren and test p eod then 200 test cyp a week. Or do u think I should just leave the test p out and up cyp

    thanks again
    I would use the prop!!
    When tren fucks with my head I lower prop.
    Then sides clear with test c higher.... I gotta use less tren and get less result...

    Try it other way once. 75 ace to 50 prop..
    If u can use everyday try eod...

    U can and should leave TRT cyp in though.

    Best result will come at tren ace 75mg a day to 50 prop less sides
    Or 50 tren 50 prop not to shabby either and sides not as bad.

    If have ran 50 tren ace a day and 30 prop until I can wedge up to 75mg tren ace a day.

    No matter what u need 350mg tren ace per wk min imo!!

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    Without the test dose high and already lean BP stays low!!
    GET L-theanine and CBD for sides

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    Let me tell u what I do...
    I swore off no tren ever again lots of times..
    I now only use Tren ace but wanna try Hex.

    I run like this today
    - Trt cyp 150mg wk
    - Test prop 50-75mg wk but Lower to 50mg when sides start if it's a contest I can get away with 30mg prop a day to dry out at end
    - Tren ace 75mg a day sides detail below.
    - Mast prop 100mg a day the cost worth it!!
    - Primo 75mg a day I use it too this combo will get me looking RIGHT!!! without the primo tren gives flat look with lower prop!!

    Orals
    - Cialis 5-10mg a day (BP CONTROL) monitor though!! Careful!!!
    - CABAR OR MC ANTI-P 0.5mg 2x wk
    - Anavar 50-75mg a week. Legit Var i can run all year with liver enzymes at top of range. HDL around 25 though but being I am gear user HDL always in 20s...
    - Proviron 50-75mg a day
    - Adex with test lower I only need 0.5mg 2-3x wk unless contest (MC Aquadex)
    - Nolva ( MC NolvaBloat) I run 10mg a day to a little less with this stack. Block estro without killing it, tren hard enough!!
    If I Wanna get freaky cut Halotestin 20mg a day last 3 weeks max 2 weeks even works but aggression increased high!! Winny too toxic for myself Halo short 2-3 wks is not as toxic for me according to my labs not even close actually!!

    I like HGH 5iu on this stack generics but I gotta be on hgh for 4 months previous to see Wonders in stack!!!

    IGF great addition keeps the flat look tren ace gives full!! MC Immense Growth Factor One!!!

    YES TREN ACE WITH LOWER TEST MAKES ME LOOK FLAT!!! It is a major diuretic for myself and muscles just are not as full. I only use tren ace as a tool to cut, it's sides too bad for a bulk because tren and aromatase = sides. A woman with raised estro and prolactin & progest = week to days before rag!!! These are her worst moments, I learned alot from studies on these hormones with women being men have merely none...
    About flat 75mg tren ace I am less flat than 50mg tren ace though but if test can be upped at any point not as flat, problem is test dose and aromatase are the cause of the mood sides with tren and besides that tren is a cutting or recomp steroid so test shouldn't be upped. ADDING a non Aromatasing Anabolic like primo will fix flatness!!!


    Tren ace sides I get with my reason theory
    if I get gas and bile backup with indigestion I drop a few days then start back up at 50mg a day
    Only side I get from tren is indigestion, but I take No anti-acids--they bad for us... problem is bile emptying from stomach with tren not acid!!! Other side is from test too high that is the impatient self, and asshole self... lower test it subsides!!! It gotten to point that i am calmer on tren my wife can vouch for this, but I had to figure out dosing and everyday keeps more stable indeed!!

    Mast and Proviron help with sides... androgen binding at progest receptor and estro receptor plus binding in adipose tissue helps with fat loss.. Estro fed fat around mid-section, lower back and lower chest!!!!

    I do not support anyone using anything but if they make choice I want them to see an outline of things I feel safe for myself!!! To run tren or even consider it body fat needs to be no higher than 13% unless that person is experienced in getting under 10%.
    Tren will raise bp but once bf Lower than 12% once tren has it's diuretic affect without aromatasing gear, BP will be in good range...

    - For sides stay away from Caffeine and preworkout drinks.
    -,Vaso-dating with Cialis helps but monitor BP for proper dose!!
    - Get mind and muscle connection at gym, block out stress. It will all work out all of it, keep mouth shut, walk away let things go!!
    - L-theanine buy this supplement take 100-200mg during day when needed to block stress with caffeine ok to use some Caffeine with addition of L-theanine. Use 400mg at night before bed. Use on empty stomach don't not exceed 400mg at time or 1200mg a day!!
    - CBD OIL BUY IT!! I Use 8mg to 20mg a day.
    I use 8mg during day and another 8mg at night or I vape a few puffs before bed.. no buzz but helps with stress, anxiety (Tren Sides) helps with sleep. Helps fight catabolism and dry pain in joints when cutting!!!

    Eat healthy diet, do high intensity workouts and know the way i use tren above I have no affected cardio output at all!! Drink lots of fluids coconut water and water. EAT LOTS OF FIBER, KEEP THINGS FLOWING BILE WILL NOT GIVE AS MUCH TROUBLE AND ACIDS WILL HAVE ROOM. FRIED FOODS MAKE THINGS WORSE!!

    Good luck this is how I run tren ace!!
    In your case I still say same.
    U need 350mg tren ace a wk min for it to be worth it IMO!! If not there are alternatives to use in place of Tren!!

    Best bet with what u got is your
    - Test c or e can't remember 150mg wk
    - test prop 50mg a day or 30mg
    - Tren ace 75mg a day or 50mg
    - Anavar u had too 50-75mg a day

    If u can't handle tren at 50mg a day a strongly recomend u add it Primo at 525mg wk. The Primo ace injectable version better in this stack. And up Anavar to 75mg a day whole time!!! 6-8 weeks of this stack!! So if u can't handle 50mg tren ace a day then add primo ace!!! Run stack for 6-8 weeks with tren ace no longer!!!!

    Reason it's better to lean bulk first and lean bulk prepping for cut. Meaning stay same weight but lose body fat target 11-12% going into Tren stack finish off with 7% easy!!! I love primo e in lean bulk and switch to primo ace in cut...

    In my opinion Tren..... only a tool for cutting. But Lower dosing it can be used longer in lean bulk but not Ace ester!!

    But I only recomend Ace ester with tren. Anyone who choses other esters should be experieced enough to make own choice.

    And finally I think I can now run tren e or tren hex. As stated I swore never to touch tren again after a tren e run even though I had many before the bad one.... I believe I figured out test too high was causing me issues. And getting older aromatase just wasn't the same my reactions to it!!

    Good luck I said a bunch but I think I gave my full opinion on what to use here, why, and what can be done to substitute!!


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    Tell me thoughts Ranger!!!

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    Started doing tren and Test p 50mg each eod and test cyp 200 once a week with 50 var a day. Everything seems good so far. Nothing more than a caugh and some night sweets. Thank you again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    Started doing tren and Test p 50mg each eod and test cyp 200 once a week with 50 var a day. Everything seems good so far. Nothing more than a caugh and some night sweets. Thank you again.
    Funny is I don't get cough much!! Maybe 1 or 2x per run. 3 at most!!
    I pin hips, glutes, and outer thighs.
    I use 22-25ga. If i use smaller gauge it seems worse for me from pressure from little hole Maybe??
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    I alternate gluteus each time with a 23 ga. 22 is easier to push but for me eod pinning I try to go as small as I can.
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    What should be my max that I need to get to 75 or 100 eod of tren a? Guessing I should keep the test p at 50 eod
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    I myself work up to test p 50 ev day
    Tren 75 ev day
    Try 75 prop eod tren 100-125 eod
    Work up slow u may be able to do 75mg prop and 75 tren eod? Or 100 of each.

    For me sides from tren only exist with higher test!!!

    Take magnesium oxide 400-600mg per night it will keep pipes clear and help with indigestion!!

    Take b6
    Recommended dosage: To lower prolactin levels I would recommend you take 50 to 200mg of P5P a day, in divided doses. If you want to take regular B6, which as I've mentioned can sometimes cause minor side effects, take 300 to 1000 mg per day in divided doses. Read the label before you buy B6 because the Pyridoxine Hydrochloride type of B6 (in most supplements) has been shown to be a prolactin inhibitor but Pyridoxal hydrochloride has been shown to be ineffective at lowering prolactin; make sure you buy the right type




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    im up to tren 100 eod test p 75 eod and cyp 200 weekly. No sides affects or anything. Should I stay or go up? Also just changed my workout to 3-4 sets 13-15 reps. The past 4 months I’ve been doing 3-5 reps. What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
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    im up to tren 100 eod test p 75 eod and cyp 200 weekly. No sides affects or anything. Should I stay or go up? Also just changed my workout to 3-4 sets 13-15 reps. The past 4 months Iíve been doing 3-5 reps. What do you think?
    Be sure it's been over 1 week before going up. I would up tren first.. if u cutting.
    I never do eod with tren ace so know I do ed. If u good then upping tren getting to 130 eod a start and prop to 100 eod.
    I would keep prop at 100 eod max and shoot for 130-150 tren eod max.

    Tren for me at 525mg week just does wonders it's big difference than 350wk for me.
    Prop just can't be too high or it starts with irritable and wanting to chase someone who shoots me bird on road...

    I would start workout with warm-up then find 5-6 rep max and do 4 sets then do short rest and 6-7 reps with burst sets of 3 designed supersets combining another muscle smaller one between the 3.
    Workout 4 days week do burst circuit supersets until muscles done.
    45-55 minutes should be plenty...

    Monday Chest Bicepts
    Tuesday legs Abs
    Wed Break because u will need it if u killing it.
    Thurs Shoulders Calfs ABs
    Friday Back Triceps

    More strength will be in arms doing opposite push and pull... they will have break from indirectional work between.
    This will allow u to fuel workout non stop after first strength exercise.

    Do all exercises approx 5 per muscle worked but changing load and keeping heart going will cut u up at high intensity.

    U gotta design it where it works.
    After rested strength exercise do large muscle exercise to smaller then different larger exercise rest 30 sec and rail thru 3 burst sets again after 4 have next designed to do 1 smaller muscle 1 larger 1 smaller for example and burst sets of then same...

    If u follow kill it!!! Changes will be revealed as u hype yourself to push harder and harder each work out.
    Use tren for it's look and it's aggression to become a beast!! Changes come from pushing harder and harder the high intensity will allow cardio will muscle getting wacked!!

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    Be careful with the tren! I ran it last year at the same level as you and for the first week I felt amazing! Then the bullshit head games started. I was such an ass (more than normal) and I knew it was happening but could not stop it. Needless to say I only lasted 4 weeks on it. May try it again this spring, I will have to see how the wife is about that......
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacktail View Post
    Be careful with the tren! I ran it last year at the same level as you and for the first week I felt amazing! Then the bullshit head games started. I was such an ass (more than normal) and I knew it was happening but could not stop it. Needless to say I only lasted 4 weeks on it. May try it again this spring, I will have to see how the wife is about that......
    It seems to make my wife a bitch..
    But on 50mg tren 50mg prop she isn't..
    Really it affects her or maybe it's me she don't like...

    But at 65-75mg a day Tren ace and 50mg prop if I am super calm and show her love and affection no head games...

    I Gotta be my best. CBD helps and L-theanine too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    It seems to make my wife a bitch..
    But on 50mg tren 50mg prop she isn't..
    Really it affects her or maybe it's me she don't like...

    But at 65-75mg a day Tren ace and 50mg prop if I am super calm and show her love and affection no head games...

    I Gotta be my best. CBD helps and L-theanine too.

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    Haha. My wife expects it from me. I’m a army Ranger and my other 4 guys are cycling also so let’s just say not a good couple months to be the bad guys
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    I swear when I take tren when things start to tighten up, either she gets insecure or a pheromone gets to her....
    One or other I see it everytime. I could swear she was on the tren!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
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    im up to tren 100 eod test p 75 eod and cyp 200 weekly. No sides affects or anything. Should I stay or go up? Also just changed my workout to 3-4 sets 13-15 reps. The past 4 months Iíve been doing 3-5 reps. What do you think?
    The change in your workouts is definitely smart. Always change up keep your body off balance. I do same thing. Low reps for awhile, high reps medium back to low ect.
    Are you throwing in the 200mgs of cyp because it's a prescribed trt dose? I would up the prop to 100 eod too. That's fine. Don't think the 200 mgs of cyp is needed though.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacktail View Post
    Be careful with the tren! I ran it last year at the same level as you and for the first week I felt amazing! Then the bullshit head games started. I was such an ass (more than normal) and I knew it was happening but could not stop it. Needless to say I only lasted 4 weeks on it. May try it again this spring, I will have to see how the wife is about that......
    Some can't take it. If you're one of those people don't risk going to jail or loosing you wife to take a drug. Tren isn't necessary to build your best possible physique.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgc640 View Post
    Some can't take it. If you're one of those people don't risk going to jail or loosing you wife to take a drug. Tren isn't necessary to build your best possible physique.
    Good diet hgh primo mast and test with DHB great alternative
    Add Novothyral to test deca and hgh and I am cutting while full as can be!!

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    I am calmer on tren ace I always keep my TRT at 200mg because I have had to leave on plane and had crash of hormones cause prop dies off too fast!!

    But tren ace I am calmer but more active rather than procrastinate
    I just Gotta keep test lower than tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
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    im up to tren 100 eod test p 75 eod and cyp 200 weekly. No sides affects or anything. Should I stay or go up? Also just changed my workout to 3-4 sets 13-15 reps. The past 4 months Iíve been doing 3-5 reps. What do you think?
    How u doing??

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