First cycle suggestions

[ajwestie87]

Will be starting first cycle within the next month and wanted to get any last minute input I can. I know diet is the big key to to any training regamen. So of course i will be paying most attention here. Going to be running test e 300 a week 10 weeks maybe more. For pct novla 40-40-20-20 two weeks after last poke. Training has been spot on and diet is close to were it needs to be while on. So any more suggestions would be great and dont hold back!!!

 

[Ox 51]

Sounds like a good plan. Just make sure you have nolva on hand from the start in case of any gyno.

 

[landonm5]

I personally would run the test e at 500 a week . either two shots of 250mg mon / thurs and would keep more steady levels and i feel better results. As Ox said i would have Nolv or arimidex on hand for gyno in case during cycle and post see if u can get u some chlomid to get your natural levels back quick. Congrats on your first cycle, best of luck. Keep us posted!

 

[musclebound86]

i agree 500 mg a week is what i started out with and what most guys start at. i think any less then you'll be disappointed

 

[ajwestie87]

I was gonna run the test at 500 a week but was told maybe to much for first cycle. And either way i will be doing 2 shots Monday and Thursday. I already have novla but not any clomid. Would it be smart to use clomid with the novla? Thanks for the help guys.

 

[BiggerStronger]

I was gonna run the test at 500 a week but was told maybe to much for first cycle. And either way i will be doing 2 shots Monday and Thursday. I already have novla but not any clomid. Would it be smart to use clomid with the novla? Thanks for the help guys.

To be honest I've never used clomid during or post cycle. I normally just used nolvadex and an aromatese inhibitor like Anastrozole or Letrozole. I've always heard guys complain about side effects with clomid.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

My first cycle was sust at just under 300mg/wk and I gained over 20 lbs. Just throwing that out there. Smallest effective dose

 

[ajwestie87]

300 a week is were I am going to stay. I was just wondering what to expect or not to expect. I have been doing lots of research and planning just looking for that last min advice.

 

[musclebound86]

I take clomid and nova together for pct. Seem to do the trick no sides from clomid

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Stick with clomiphene for PCT. I would stay away from tamoxifen.

See this thread.

http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...59605-your-pct-doing-more-harm-than-good.html

 

[ajwestie87]

Damn I already order the novla and not any clomid!!

 

[Lightsout]

My first cycle was sust at just under 300mg/wk and I gained over 20 lbs. Just throwing that out there. Smallest effective dose

I have to agree with crg. I wouldn't go over 300 on the test on your frist cycle.

 

[05madmax05]

order some tissues with that clomid as well your in for a wild ride.

 

[muscleitis]

two schools of thought here. smallest effective dose, for me thats a no, sounds to much like a therapeutic dose when were looking for super human results. and 1st cycle large dose, for me its a yes. we all know how fresh those recptors are and if we could go back to that 1st cycle on which we gained 20 lbs on 200mg of tornel, and hit it with 600 mg of upjohn! hell ya i would. i know this isent ur typical awnser, but id do suston @ 1cc eod or e3d.

 

[big in vegas]

order some tissues with that clomid as well your in for a wild ride.

Or a 10 pack of socks

 

[ajwestie87]

order some tissues with that clomid as well your in for a wild ride.

Not sure I follow. Why would I need tissues? Lol

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Not sure I follow. Why would I need tissues? Lol

Clomiphene has been known to cause mood swings and depression in some users. Not everyone experiences these side effects though and the chance is greatly diminished if you use reasonable dosages.

 

[ajwestie87]

I knew thought that's what you meant. And by the way what is a good dose for clomid?

 

[Pharm_Fed]

I knew thought that's what you meant. And by the way what is a good dose for clomid?

Clomiphene often comes in 50mg pills. I would say take 50mg for the first 3-4 days and then drop down to 25mg for the next 2.5 weeks or so. This may even still be high. This study shows excellent results with hypogonadal men taking 25mg every other day.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...ionid=8CD6994E81CBF97A2664236EC1ECEA5D.d02t03

 

[05madmax05]

the first day of using clomid sucks donkey dick. there after not so bad, i jumped on the bandwagon of sarming as a bridge the last cycle and clomid was no where near as bad. seeing green was.