Bodybuilders with Joint replacements?

[Presser]

Does anyone know which bodybuilders if any have had joint replacements, more specificly knee replacements?

I ask cause as some of you know i need knee replacements, especialy on my right knee. And My doctrs have all told me that if i get them done now when im still active that they will only last me about 4-7 years before needing to be replaced again. And my Dr said my case was more like every 4 years needing a new knee replacement.

So I was curious if any of you knew any pros with knee replacements off the top of ur head

 

[Presser]

Anyone?

 

[Jenn]

I don't know of anyone off the top of my head Presser. I would think that competitive powerlifters might need them, the world's strongest men for sure. If you get it done will it feel like brand new knees, at least for the 4 years? I tore my rotator cuff and had that repaired as well as some of my clavicle removed to give my shoulder joint more room, and my shoulder feels brand new now. Whatever you choose to do I hope you feel better .

 

[Presser]

I don't know of anyone off the top of my head Presser. I would think that competitive powerlifters might need them, the world's strongest men for sure. If you get it done will it feel like brand new knees, at least for the 4 years? I tore my rotator cuff and had that repaired as well as some of my clavicle removed to give my shoulder joint more room, and my shoulder feels brand new now. Whatever you choose to do I hope you feel better .

Well I know for certain im not going to replace it for a long time, or until the pain is so bad I cant take it any longer. Yeah I was just curious if we knew any pros so i could google them and read about their knee isues and what all they did for it

 

[Jpotch]

First off i am fucking nuts and am making all this up....

Second off....


Studies show 95% of knee replacements now last 15 yrs or more. The problem is the vast majority of individuals involved in these studies are grammy and pappy. So they are low impact patients. Golfing and swimming are usually their biggest physical activities.

If i put new knees in you tomorrow id tell you your squatting, deadlifting, lunging days are over for good. The cobalt chrome femur and tivanium tibia are cemented into the bone. The stresses you would place on the cement mantle doing these exercises are far too great for the cement interface to hold up. I would bet both nuts it would result in a catastrophic failure.

If you would agree to eliminate these exercises and all variations hypothetically id be willing to put a 10 yr lifetime on your new knee.

So what happens after ten years.....all of your body weight is on the tibial plateau. When you put a metal component on that plateau it results in what is called stress shielding.
Believe it or not bone needs stressed in order to remodel and stay dense. When you shield that stress you experience osteolysis or bone loss under your tibia.
This is bad news for someone who needs a new total knee after the 10-15 years is up. Theres only so much bone to work with.
At your age you are looking at 3 knee surgeries in each leg once you have taken the plunge. Pretty much garunteed.....
Nobody knows how much osteolysis each person will experience once a knee replacement is performed. Some is garunteed. Could be mild, could be severe. Theres no way to tell.

Questions for u...

Do you know if a unicompartmental or partial knee replacement is an option?

Also is the patello femoral joint involved?

Do you have osteoarthritis (wear and tear) or rheumatoid?

 

[Presser]

i just know i need a total knee replacement, the problem is that i have holes in bone under the knee i guess my upper shin bone it would be considered, when getting an mri they thought i had masses in the bone and i had to see an orthopeid oncologist as they thought it might be cancer, but they then found out the masses were masses but rather holes in my bone, so no ortho would touch me cause i cant just get a knee replacement, i first need to have my shin bone cut and they dont know if their would be enough bone to attach the knee replacement, and they told me theirs only a handful of surgeon who can perform this surgery on the east coast, so i would need the first surgery with my bone cut to get the holes out or they said it would shatter the bone withouth doing so , and they also said the holes in the bone that they cant cut out they would have to try using some new bones substance to fill the holes with. then i would need to heal from that surgery and then they could try to do the knee replacement

All I know is its a mess, and when 2 seperate orthos looked at it and come back and kind of laugh telling you they wouldnt touch anything like this and wouldnt even try you kind of just say fuck it,lol.

I will say this though, as bummed out as I was about how bad and extensive the surgerys were going to be, i kind of had things put into perspective after visiting the Orthopedic Oncologist office a few times. I seen young guys and girls coming and going and in the waiting area, without their entire limbs. It was sad, and scary at the same time, cause at that time they didnt know if the holes were masses and cancer of some sort, but after hearing it wasnt cancer, i felt so relieved, and I dont have it nearly as bad as those patients who were there for surgery follow ups just after having the legs removed due to cancer, and some of them were so so young!

Anyways i know i went off topic a bit, but i wanted to touch on the fact that though i wine about my knee and GOD knows it hurts around the clock, i still have it better then alot of people!

 

[Presser]

by the way jpotch, I know i said it before but ill say it again, ur a great asset to this community brutha!!! Its great haiving people who actualy know about this kind of stuff!

 

[Lightsout]

by the way jpotch, I know i said it before but ill say it again, ur a great asset to this community brutha!!! Its great haiving people who actualy know about this kind of stuff!

Second that Presser..:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Jpotch]

Thanks bro. I appreciate that. Ive learned so much here in my lifetime its crazy. Im thankful for all of you


Back to your knees... Im assuming the 'holes' they see on xray and mri are bone cysts. Sometimes they can be pretty substantial and to a traditional general orthopedist they can be intimidating when you need the tibia (shin bone) to provide the scaffolding that holds the component in place.

The good news is there are options for you. Instead of a traditional knee replacement that uses the flat top of the tibia to take the brunt of force, a trained joint replacement specialist can add whats called trabecular metal to the bottom of the component for better fixation.

If you have time look this shit up sometime! Its really cool to put it mildly (maybe im just a geek). Trabecular metal is the closest thing to bone man has ever made. Your body will be fooled into incorporating it into your shin. The body actually vascularizes the metal. I think its about 80% porous but ad strong as can be.

Since you said you are on the east coast..the guy i would recommend is (pm me for his name) MD out of philadelphia. Id be willing to bet he has more experience with this exact situation than anyone in the world.

 

[Presser]

Thanks bro. I appreciate that. Ive learned so much here in my lifetime its crazy. Im thankful for all of you


Back to your knees... Im assuming the 'holes' they see on xray and mri are bone cysts. Sometimes they can be pretty substantial and to a traditional general orthopedist they can be intimidating when you need the tibia (shin bone) to provide the scaffolding that holds the component in place.

The good news is there are options for you. Instead of a traditional knee replacement that uses the flat top of the tibia to take the brunt of force, a trained joint replacement specialist can add whats called trabecular metal to the bottom of the component for better fixation.

If you have time look this shit up sometime! Its really cool to put it mildly (maybe im just a geek). Trabecular metal is the closest thing to bone man has ever made. Your body will be fooled into incorporating it into your shin. The body actually vascularizes the metal. I think its about 80% porous but ad strong as can be.

Since you said you are on the east coast..the guy i would recommend is (pm me for his name) MD out of philadelphia. Id be willing to bet he has more experience with this exact situation than anyone in the world.

I will look into this, but on my own, if i go back to the doctors now, ill need to get the whole process done over agin, MRI, and visit after vist to see if theres any changes ect which i totaly understand having to do, but its just tiresome and im just not up for it,lol

 

[The Dude]

Damn man. This is definately not an area I'm well versed in, but it just seems that replacements would have to be stronger than what we are born with?? Bringing it down to my level I look at the over calcification that occurs at the site of broken bones and over compensation occurs. So this doesn't happen with knee replacements or the materials in the new joint aren't as strong as our ligaments and tendons??

 

[Jpotch]

In a traditional knee replacement the only ligament that is sacrificed is the ACL. The pcl,mcl,lcl, quad tendon, and patellar tendon all remain.
You are correct in saying the metal components are stronger than bone. The weakest link is the cement that holds the metal all in.
Its usually the first place the new knee begins to break down.

 

[bigghorn]

Well shit MC has a doc in the house !! Not every site has that and Pressers
right ! Its great to be able to ask a question and not get a Damm office visit bill besides. Sincerely thanks on your hard earned knowledge..

 

[Jpotch]

Haha We're all here to share what we know about the body

I just watch a lot of greys anatomy

 

[CH3NO2]

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but its my understanding that if a knee replacement is needed and there is even the smallest chance the other knee will need a replacement in the future you should get both knees done at the same time. Its one of the most painful proceedures that can be done. A guy I work with had his done, needs the other done and will not do it because of how painful it was. Took him over a year to get back to where he was walking ok. He still has a slight limp.

 

[Jpotch]

Some new studies show that the mortality rate is much higher from doing bilateral knees than just one at a time. Most are getting away from it for that reason.
Its a very painful procedure but nowadays the anesthesia department in bigger institutions can do a femoral and sciatic nerve block that lasts a couple days. So theres no pain till the block wears off.
Within 6 months patients should forget that the new knee is even there