Do you really need excess calories to grow ?

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an answer by Chris Aceto in his thread....



Q - I have always been told that you must take in more calories than you expend each day to build muscle. Is that really true?






A - On paper, in a text book that’s true. In reality, there’s more to it than that. Certainly, calories are extremely influential in promoting gains in muscle mass. However, other factors play a role such as protein, fat, and carb intake, meal timing, and hormonal levels.




Many nutritionists will argue that you have to eat more calories than you burn to build additional muscle mass. That idea is limited in that you always have to consider other factors; specifically those listed above. Calories, say from carbohydrates, provide fuel for the muscles to do work. That is, you need calories-- or energy-- to train. But ask yourself, can a car drive 100 miles per hour on only ½ a tank of gas? Does the gas tank have to be entirely full for that car to drive as fast as possible? Of course not! The same concept is true with training. The bodybuilder can easily train as hard as he can with an all-out high level of intensity without overloading on calories (fuel). Specifically, muscle glycogen-- the collection of stored carbohydrates located in muscles that support training-- does not have to be at peak levels to support hardcore training sessions. In addition, when you constantly attempt to consume more calories than you need on a daily basis, you’ll invariably end up storing a lot of body fat. So; by eating a lot, you might get big, but you’ll also store a lot of unwanted body fat. As Dave and I discussed recently on the Guru Q&A segment of our show, added body fat tends to drive estrogen levels, and added estrogen can impede testosterone uptake by muscles. In other words, as you get fat, estrogen often rises which can rob you of muscle growth.




Besides calories, protein is immensely important and plays a huge role in growth. It’s just as important as “total calories” or eating more calories each day then you require. Protein serves as the foundation for muscle growth. Protein (specifically amino acids) is the “bricks” to build a bigger body. Calories (energy from carbs and dietary fat) are simply the energy that allow the body to use those bricks. Without enough protein, you won’t grow- even if you eat a lot of calories. So the idea that you have to eat more calories on a daily basis than you need is somewhat faulty if, in fact, you fail to eat enough protein. In this case, eating a lot of calories – without eating enough protein—will result in an increase in body fat while simultaneously resulting in a failure to gain muscle mass.




Meal timing-- how many times you eat daily-- also impacts muscle growth and is equally important as “eating more calories than the body needs.” Eating multiple times throughout the day-- 5, 6 or 7 times- helps pave the way for muscle growth by maximizing nutrient absorption (though textbook nutritionists argue differently). Additionally, eating a large meal before training and again after training can offset muscle breakdown associated with hard training. One of the paradoxes associated with training is that it tears the body down. Nutrition, rest, and recuperation help repair the body and build it up stronger than it was before. Specifically, timing your meals so that you are eating larger meals 90 minutes before training and again right after training are essential to preventing the muscles from being broken down too severely; to the point where you’re doing damage to the muscle rather than stimulating muscle growth. You could eat more calories each day then the body needs, yet if you fail to eat the right size meal before and after training and also neglect to structure your meals so that you are eating 5, 6, or 7 times a day, then you might just gain body fat and fail to grow.




The last part of timing has to do with what you eat before bed. In general, you want to time your meals so that you are not eating a lot of carbohydrates before bedtime because an excess carbohydrate intake can interfere with natural growth hormone output which occurs within the first 90 minutes of sleep. Ultimately, GH is responsible the release of IGF-1 from the liver which causes muscle cell hyperplasia—a creation of new muscles cells that never existed before. When new muscle cells are synthesized, the bodybuilder’s genetic potential dramatically increases. It also boosts the body’s metabolic rate. So, by eliminating carbs before bed and using a GH releaser like GH Accelerator, over the long haul, can keep you growing even when calories are not excessive.
 
Thanks for taking the time to post than. However I really don't agree with the 6 meals a day thing. That's very much bro science, in fact your body partions nutrients better when you fast 16 hours a day. Though it's hard to eat enough cals in an 8 hour window. Have you ever read info form leangains.com ? Martin maintains 5.5@195 natty year around and he built his physique only eating 3 meals a day. You should check out his info, really broke me out of the mold of i need to eat often and clean foods.
 
Such a good GOOD discussion. I too always thought food was the key to growth when in all actuality it's not that simple. That's why you hear so MANY pros say they eat whenever they feel hungry when in the off season.

Both lee Priest and Dorrian Yates say precisely this in the last MD.

Good discussion
 
well look at Presser...... 290lbs lean, and eats 1 meal a day!!
 
I guess once so many factors are set in stone you're going to have one jackass come up with all kinds of metaphors that, although completely unrelated, make his point seem somewhat valid.
The fact is if you only eat at maintainance you are only giving your body enough fuel to make it through the day and not break down other tissues for energy or repair. That's it! Are there some VERY gifted freaks that can gain muscle and get leaner at the same time? Yes. Levrone and Franco Columbo come to mind. That is not how the body works for the vast majority and certainly isn't efficient as far as really making the most gains possible. I'm not sure what my maintenance level is, but it isn't 6 - 7k calories a day that I'm eating. Despite that my weight is still ever so slowly climbing and I have gained almost no appreciable fat. This may be somewhat viable for the 170lb beginner, but absolutely ridiculous for bodybuilders with any appreciable mass.
 
There are so many flaws to this guys retarded babbling that I'm really bothered. He is the reason why I don't buy bodybuilding mags.
1. It's common biology that digestion is a metabolically "expensive" process. It burns calories to digest food and increases metabolic rate. In essence if you are keeping calories at a maintenance level increasing meal frequency would put you in a deficit or require more calories to reach a maintenance level.
2. If we gain muscle and weight on "maintenance caloric intake then by his definition we would not be at maintenance.
3. We all know muscle is biologically active and as you accumulate tissue, you raise your requisite caloric intake and so on.....
Its jackoffs like this that have 175lb kids doing 800mg of test and not eating enough "because Chris Aceto said I don't need to eat more". Food is the number 1 anabolic. Anyone who says any different is an idiot. You can get bigger by increasing your caloric intake and playing with macro nutrient ratios and training. You can not by simply taking steroids and training. It's that simple.
 
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