enathate and ???

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want to take another compound with enathate. want to put on 15 pounds and get cut. will be a 15 week cycle. i think ican put 15 pounds on with the enathate. so i want something to elimanate the bloat and get me cut up. im going to take arimidex .5 mg a day to hold back sides. What should i take? taking enathate over prop becuase its the same price as prop but twice the strength. i was thinking EQ or tren? what you guys think?
 
You need to fill in a lot of holes here----
Tell us your experience from your past cycles and what you used.
Enthanate is a longer releasing ester, prop is a shorter one... you generally inject enth twice a week.
Depending on dosage you inject prop ED or EOD. If you are going on a long cycle, enth may be a better choice based on frequency of injections.
Without knowing a lot of missing details, I would say tren is your best bet to add to your test.
75-100mg EOD
 
agree, Tren ace is a good choice,but has alot of sides (depends from person to person)
 
some are being pissy and emotional roller coaster, acne, insomnia, flu-like symptoms
headaches,fatigue,lethargy,loss of appetite,aggression,depression,anxiety,night and day sweats,increased body temp,reduced sex drive,tightness in chest when injected along with uncontrollable cough.
As Chris said, everyone is different....
 
I've heard several of you guys saying that any beginner should do test only cycles for their first few cycles. When would be a good time to introduce an anabolic? Or, is it completely dependant upon how long that individual continues to see solid gains from test only?
 
I've heard several of you guys saying that any beginner should do test only cycles for their first few cycles. When would be a good time to introduce an anabolic? Or, is it completely dependant upon how long that individual continues to see solid gains from test only?

They reason I say it is because too often too many newbies want to complicate things by wanting to do 10 things at once because they want to 70lbs of muscle right off the bat.
No need to to do that- it needs to be simple so these guys can keep up with their eating plans, training and rest, if you don't have the big three any supp you use will be useless and you would have wasted your time and money.
I believe you can add an another supp once you have your big 3 in place and you become educated on the possible choices for another supp(dosage, sides, PCT, etc).
I don't look at absorption rate for beginners- too complicated to grasp for most and I look at a good starting dosage usually on the median side- eg. 500 mg of test for 8 weeks. Again there are exceptions to the rules but its best to always keep things simple in the beginning...
 
ive done test for 8 weeks no pct. when i was 20. then test and arimidex for 9 weeks when i was 22. then 23 i took test and masteron for 11 weeks. no arimidex.
 
what dose of test was each of those cycles?

what dose of test are you thinking for the upcoming cycle?
 
i'd just run 600-750mg of test.

IMO, you'll get more gains by upping that test more than you would by adding deca or eq.
 
IMHO at your size I would spend the money at Costco. You can gain the 10 pounds easily with a clean diet. Check your diet. Make sure your getting at least 390 grams of protein. I base that number on 2x's your goal weight. If your not eating that, then there is no steroid that will get you there and keep you there. I started lifting at 135lbs. I'm now between 245-255 5'9, so i do have experience and I'm not talking out of my arse. Anyway, as far as gear goes, this works for me...I use Test-400 with Tren-e often. The Tren seems to get me lean(with proper diet) and I think I'm one of the lucky guys who dodges most sides. If your gyno sensitive Adex won't help with tren and you'll need something like Cabergoline or some guys use winny.
 
want to take another compound with enathate. want to put on 15 pounds and get cut. will be a 15 week cycle. i think ican put 15 pounds on with the enathate. so i want something to elimanate the bloat and get me cut up. im going to take arimidex .5 mg a day to hold back sides. What should i take? taking enathate over prop becuase its the same price as prop but twice the strength. i was thinking EQ or tren? what you guys think?
You really are sort of cutting yourself short trying to diet and taking gear. Gear sort of opens the door for mass building but the door is open for nutrients to do their tissue building role. Dieting and being on is setting yourself up for sub-par results. You want to have adequate nutrients to build lean tissue. I would do the cut first before the cycle getting the diet in order and eating super clean. Then start chipping away at the fat. then continue to eat clean and do your cycle and add in your 15 lbs of good solid mass. Test E and NPP are good lean bulkers for me.
 
i'd just run 600-750mg of test.

IMO, you'll get more gains by upping that test more than you would by adding deca or eq.

yeah thats actually really good avice..if your making good gains on the test only,id stick with that..no need in introducing an anabolic really as of right now..test e or cyp @ 500 mg ew should put it on you,and as far as cutting goes,thats gonna be in that good food you eat..

you cycle experience is on the low side(which is good)test only should be fine..
 
thanks for the advice. although i have chosen to go with IGF at 50mcgs daily and 30 mg tbol daily both for 50 days. im going to go for the 390 grams of protein and not eat and junk food. i can easily grab clen if necessary
 
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