fat loss product question

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petenyc

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I took a trip to GNC earlier to pick up a fat loss product, however they no longer sell ephedra products in there...

I bought LIPO 6, it has Yohimbe HCL 5MG and caffeine anhydrous USP 200 MG

Other ingredients include, synephrine, n-methyl tyramine, tyramine, hordenine, octopamine, carnitex, bioperine..

I dont know how effective this will be without ephedra...

I am going to take a trip to a store that sells pure ephedrine tomorrow (hopfully they still have it, box has been there for a while)...

My questions are does anyone have any opinions on how this would work without epehedra?

I plan on taking 3 doses daily, prior to 3 of my meals, can anyone tell me how many MG of ephedra i should be consuming per serving of this?


Thanks!
 
caffeine , muahang extract, yohimbe and a few others accelerate your systems , for a short period of time, this warms you up, wich burns more calories as well as the acceleration.Aka THERMogenic

caffeine ,ephedra,and asprin has shown to be a more effective stack combined than the sum of the idividual parts. you can look in to L-cartinine Usnic Acid, and a few others for non ephedra fat loss. Cla, etc etc
 
pudgy said:
caffeine , muahang extract, yohimbe and a few others accelerate your systems , for a short period of time, this warms you up, wich burns more calories as well as the acceleration.Aka THERMogenic

caffeine ,ephedra,and asprin has shown to be a more effective stack combined than the sum of the idividual parts. you can look in to L-cartinine Usnic Acid, and a few others for non ephedra fat loss. Cla, etc etc

(I can get pure epedra pills locally still) If i wanted to added epehedra to the mix though, how many mg should be consumed if im taking it 3 times a day?
 
A homemade ECA is
25mgs of ephedra
300mgs asprin
200mgs caffine

taken usually 3 times a day before meals.
 
Ah, wait!

A couple of things I'd like to say here.

First to Pudgy- Usnic Acid doesn't do crap, nada. However sodium usinate does. Usnic Acid is just not bio-available. This is why you never heard much about the usnic acid supps that came out after Lipo-K got yanked off the market. I like and have had good results with sodium usinate however the source I had for it no longer carries it due to insurance reasons. Some people say it's worse than DNP (which by the way has somehow dropped in its number 1 spot on BBing most dangerous supplement list. If anyone can find a copy of the memo that has IGF replacing it please post it for me. I understand it's titled "From the Desk of Cy Wilson" and it's on T-Mag stationery).

Now Yohimbe HCL is a great product for fat loss. You know about caffeine. But back to Yo, Yohimbe targets low ab fat. The hard to remove fat and I have had great success with it. It's half-life is about the same as ephedra (more on this in a second). The problem with yohimbe is that insulin levels have to be low otherwise it becomes worthless for fat loss. I like to take mine before morning cardio, about 4 hours later again. Then about 4 hours after that I switch to ECA. Yo and ephedra together can cause extreme rapid heart beat in most indiviuals- me included. So I space them apart. The reason I switch to the ephedra is that I start to eat carbs at some point during the day and for a pre-workout boost. Yohimbe has a plesant side effect too, nice all day hardons and counters the damage ephedra does on the prostrate.

I dose Yohimbe as follows. Start low, increase a pill a session. When sides appear, cut back. Sides are the same as going hypo on slin. Sweating, shaking, etc. cut back.

The other supps listed are a waste of money and they are probably too expensive to do any good at the dose that's in the pills.
 
how would yohimbe/synephrine/caffiene work without the ephedra and aspirin?

Is it a good idea to take yohimbie/synephrine/caffience product a few hours before the ephedra and aspirin then add them 2 hours later? Or is it better to completely cut out the E and the A?

The supp i have already has yohimbe/synephrine/caffiene in it.. I am just debating on whether to add the E and the A and when to add them.. Or maybe a smaller dose of ephedra along with the Y, S and C?
 
I believe that synephrine is worthless also. So if you have a supp with it in it, use it for the yo and the caf, but next time buy the yo and the caf seperately. Take a vacation with the money you've saved.

E and Yo > take them 4 hours apart.
 
Ok thanks alot for the help.. I am going to only use ephedra 25mg / Aspirin once daily for now in between the Y and the C..

I will gradually move the doses up and close and see how I react..

Thanks for the help..
 
Hope this isnt a source post, because this place is a vitamin store located here in north NJ. I'm good friends with the twin brothers that own it and i get my PURE ephedrine there all the time. Plus, they have 200mg caffeine pills for like $8 for 500 tabs They have PURE ephedrine HCL, not that ephedrine with all the other crap in it. Here ya go.....

www.dnepharm.com


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