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[pop]

was gonna start with 20 mgs of d- bol for 4 weeks with either deca or test 200 or 250 weekly , any advice plz nolva on hand watabout hcg is it needed or wood clomid b ok , (run for 6 weeks cycle)

 

[Cordoba]

neither deca or test e is going to do a while lot in a 6 weeks cycle, they will start to kick in weeks 4 and 5 respectively. I would try test prop or test suspension for a 6 weeks cycle. You wont need hcg, clomid will work fine.

 

[brew]

I would rather yee you do a 10-12 wks cycle with test 500 deca 3-400 and dbol30 wks1-6

 

[pop]

ty m8 is there more sides off test prop or susp 200 or 250 b fine wood it, i woodnt need hcg 4 this 1 wood i

 

[brew]

whats your expereice with gear, and how about some stats and what your trying to accomplish.

 

[pop]

ive been bb for over 2 years now 215 pounds novice really, bf not known but woodnt of thought much off 10%, just wanna b safe not over do it and get a decent shape and size so i feel good u no wat i mean lol

 

[brew]

IF this is your first cycle, I wouldn't use suspension. prop will work, but I'd rather see you use a long ester. of that 12wks, the gear will only work for 8 since its gonna take 4wks to work. The cycle I listed about is a classic beginner cycle, its not too much trust me.

 

[pop]

i wood need hcg with longer cycle wood i , is deca a good 1 better than test , wat is deca dick is it permanant or temp deca seems better 4 sides is it not, dont think deca is as bad on dhl levels

 

[carlsky]

Dude you will still get deca dick. The sides aren't that bad just do the test, deca, d-bol cycle above but take 30 mg/day instead of 20

 

[pop]

wood i need 2 take nolva during cycle ppl or hcg ty

 

[pop]

wont 1 do either test or deca, clomid 4 post or hcg during cycle

 

[brew]

wont 1 do either test or deca, clomid 4 post or hcg during cycle

yeah, but if your gonna do you might as well do it right or don't wate your time..........or at least thats my opinion. HCG isn't need. Have nolv on hand and clomid for post cycle is a must. I like to run arimidex while on, as a prevenitive gyno measure. Haven't used it yet, but hear femera is even better

 

[pop]

thanks m8 shud i use test or deca , wat is deca dick serious or not

 

[BiggerStronger]

spell check bro....lol....just kidding with ya!

You should use test and deca together. Deca is known to shut down testosterone production which leads to problems such as "Deca Dick". This term means that due to the almost non-existant testosterone production you would basically start having problems with erectile dysfunction, loss of libido - interest, etc.

That's why most guys on here always suggest taking at least some test while on a cycle of Deca.

Here's my suggestion:
Weeks 1-12 Test Enanthate 400-500mg EW
Weeks 1-12 Deca 300-400mg EW
Weeks 1-4 D-bol 20-30mg ED

 

[pop]

thanku m8 wat pct wood i need plz , and wat about hcg needed or not cheers .woodnt test shutdown production aswell tho .