Gains slowing down, still steady

[Pharm_Fed]

Well, I quit the d-bol early, only ran it for about 2.5 weeks. It was destroying my appetite too much. I didn't have my liver values checked but I suspect they were probably high as I didn't feel too well either. That was a week and a half ago. Immediately after dropping the d-bol I dropped a couple pounds (probably water). Since then I have still been gaining but much slower than the first couple weeks. I go up a pound about every 2-3 days, yesterday was at 216.

While this is still fine with me, I am wondering if since the Sust is mostly long esters and it's only been 4 weeks, could the gains pick up again in another 1-2 weeks when it's all kicked in, or is it more likely to stay slow and steady, or possibly slow even more?

BTW, strength is definitely going up, hit 275x12 and 315x1 on bench friday. That's a personal record!!

 

[Presser]

it should pick up bro, theirs two short two long in sust and the two long are the ones with the higher doses, so yes ur gains should go up shortly brutha man

 

[Chris250]

Yeah, I would bet in 2 weeks...you will hit another size surge and keep growing...

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Excellent!!

 

[chad55]

Good job on the benching bro nice weight!

 

[Shaptown]

that is very weird that dbol elicited that response in you. Nearly everyone else who runs it, gets euphoria and great strength gains. Also, you will not be able to notice symptoms of physiological increased liver values. Not in that short of a duration. I'm sorry but whatever you think you were feeling was either psychosomatic, or caused by something else.

Also, you are running a low dose of Sust, frankly I'm not surprised that your cycle is producing such meager results. You really need to learn how to properly run doses of AAS. Until then your results are going to be lackluster at the very best.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

that is very weird that dbol elicited that response in you. Nearly everyone else who runs it, gets euphoria and great strength gains. Also, you will not be able to notice symptoms of physiological increased liver values. Not in that short of a duration. I'm sorry but whatever you think you were feeling was either psychosomatic, or caused by something else.

Also, you are running a low dose of Sust, frankly I'm not surprised that your cycle is producing such meager results. You really need to learn how to properly run doses of AAS. Until then your results are going to be lackluster at the very best.

I've heard of others having appetite issues with d-bol. As far as gains; I started at 195, so I'm up 20+ pounds and still have 8 weeks left for this cycle. I wouldn't say those are lackluster gains at all. I was just curious if I could expect another surge when all the test kicks in.

 

[Shaptown]

I've heard of others having appetite issues with d-bol. As far as gains; I started at 195, so I'm up 20+ pounds and still have 8 weeks left for this cycle. I wouldn't say those are lackluster gains at all. I was just curious if I could expect another surge when all the test kicks in.

I would say so. Also, I've never ran dbol by itself, but accounts of that have clearly indicated that it did produce a general state of well-being, even without test. However, some people are probably not going to experience this without enough test. I'm not sure how much you ran, but maybe if it was in the neighborhood of 50mg, you needed something like 500mg of test a week to mask the sides of the dbol. Just a thought...

 

[Pharm_Fed]

I would say so. Also, I've never ran dbol by itself, but accounts of that have clearly indicated that it did produce a general state of well-being, even without test. However, some people are probably not going to experience this without enough test. I'm not sure how much you ran, but maybe if it was in the neighborhood of 50mg, you needed something like 500mg of test a week to mask the sides of the dbol. Just a thought...

I was only taking 30mg of d-bol split up into 3 doses with about 300mg test so it was about the same ratio. I still have a bunch left so maybe I will try them again next cycle when I up my test dose a little. I just felt like with my appetite being so low I would benefit more from just running test and actually being able to eat.

 

[jtunderdog]

Crg did you check your bp? Holding all that fluid from dbol could have spiked it. Shaptowns assumptions are correct on a generalized basis but I think it is important to remember that everyone gets effected differently by every chemical. I can't take anavar because I get dizzy and feel like garbage. Its not bp either. Your body may not "like" dbol, simple as that. Shaptown is really informed I see that, but I do think the individual dictates the diagnosis not the normal of others. By the way my I have a BS in Science and am about to finish my masters so Ive studied a little bit of anatomy too.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Crg did you check your bp? Holding all that fluid from dbol could have spiked it. Shaptowns assumptions are correct on a generalized basis but I think it is important to remember that everyone gets effected differently by every chemical. I can't take anavar because I get dizzy and feel like garbage. Its not bp either. Your body may not "like" dbol, simple as that. Shaptown is really informed I see that, but I do think the individual dictates the diagnosis not the normal of others. By the way my I have a BS in Science and am about to finish my masters so Ive studied a little bit of anatomy too.

I did check it but the only time I was able to do so was at the gym and I had just finished working out so I know it would be higher than normal just from that. I think the highest I saw it though, was ~135/~85. Elevated, but not terrible.

 

[saudades]

Dbol typically does the same thing to me as well. The most common effect it has is that it immediately fills my stomach up with air, and with the bloat I can't eat. Most orals like dbol, tbol, and drol do the same thing to me, and the effect of well-being--well, I don't get it so much either. I don't gain water weight from dbol either. Most guys gain about 10 lbs in their first week of using it. Not me. I'm lucky to get one pound. What it does do for me is give me insane pumps during my workout if I take it around 30 minutes before.

For most guys doing their first cycle, their blood pressure will elevate no matter what they're using due to increased water and red blood cell production. Once you come off, you should return to normal. Since I'm on all the time, my blood pressure is always around 135/85 sometimes higher, sometimes lower.

 

[The Dude]

On the main topic, I agree that at about 5 - 6 weeks in you should feel the test more, but I'm curious as to how much. You've already gained 20+ lbs. That's huge!
On the D-bol topic... I love that shit!! I planned on giving Anadrol a second try as the first time it didn't do dick for me and I'm sure they were real as I sold the remaining tub to a friend who promptly gained over 25lbs in 6 weeks.
Dbol almost makes me high. I just feel amazing on it. Everything just seems to work better. I'm going to do it again in the very near future. I haven't done it in probably 5 years. Its a great jumpstart drug or mid cycle to help blast through plateau's.

 

[Pharm_Fed]

Thanks saud and Dude, for your input. I figure I'll give the d-bol another try at some point considering I still have a bunch left, but if I have the same reaction I'll probably avoid it, during bulking cycles at least.

Yeah, I'm stoked about the weight increase already. It's been enough weight, and gained quickly enough to prompt several people at work to make comments. That's always good for encouragement It'd be awesome to gain another 5-10 pounds. With 8 weeks left, who knows what could happen.

 

[saudades]

I'm sure you could gain another 5 lbs at the very least. Keep the calories going, and I'm sure you'll make it. I'm jealous though I know it's your first cycle. I wish I could gain like that again. My first time was 30 lbs, and I kept all of it although I started out weighing much less. Sure want to do that again at my current weight.