Need veteran advice coming off long cycle

[Muscle mechanic]

Lol true but I dunno man, I had some random crying sessions in movies while on clomid [emoji23]


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I tell myself that. Lol!!
But I am on trt and haven't taken clomid or Nolva in 4 years. Thank God at least for that.
I get emotional just upping or lowering gear too though. Lol
I have some moments.
I only handled 100 clomid a day for 2 weeks and 40 Nolva then 50 and 20 for other two
Tried higher and it did same.
But often started with 300 first day to get ball rolling

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[Muscle mechanic]

Well trt when son was 3 months old. I got on. He will be 4 in may so close to 4 I guess. Since September 2012 trt

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[Muscle mechanic]

I agree hcg will help. But always heard it should be used while on cycle and not later than last 2 weeks before pct.
It will keep u somewhat restored and not dead while on cycle make easier come back

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[pitfowl1983]

I agree I need to be smarter....I started and grew almost instantly and didn't want to lose it when I came off. I read somewhere new muscle will disappear easily so I was afraid of losing it and just kept going and now have realized it wasn't smart...I'm switching to igf when I come off this time. Just wanna finish this dnp t3 run first just using test 2 keep from losing muscle due to the dieting and t3

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[Muscle mechanic]

New muscle will remain with enough testosterone coming back again after cycle.
So u want your body to have enough testosterone to support muscle back asap.
There is a max point with everyone to grow with or without gear.
New muscle cells and volume created by gear with remain to grow with working out and proper diet, just not to the sane extent of running gear.
Where I am now I can stay same with accepting of around 5-8 lbs but I can maintain and gain that back without more gear sometimes too.
New muscle needs to bring maintained for longer than 3 months to keep but only with diet exercise and testosterone.
But water filled muscle that will be lost.
I held my weight and build at 150 total testosterone on blood work.
But I never quit.
Now of coarse on gear I may appear and look different and can make gains easier but everyone has a genetic threshold

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[Muscle mechanic]

U will lose water weight and not qualify muscle from good compounds but your dbol and water holder's that is not quality but can get u over a hump to gain more quality muscle.
U have to have enough testosterone natural to maintain muscle. Or trt testosterone.
And u gotta push gear or no gear.

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[pitfowl1983]

Well I did test for awhile then added mast and tren came off 5 weeks then test and eq now just test to maintain while the dnp t3 does its job....in the one year I've gained 26lbs and lost 8% body fat...

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[pitfowl1983]

Since starting dnp 10 days ago I've lost 9 pounds and an inch off the arms but I look better...less stomach

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[Presser]

9 pounds in 10 days, damn! will you be posting before and after pictures? Ill bet the difference is appearance is already insane

 

[Muscle mechanic]

9 pounds in 10 days, damn! will you be posting before and after pictures? Ill bet the difference is appearance is already insane

Have u seen this guy's photos of past couple years. It's amazing

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[FL1025]

When I come off of long runs I use this protocol.
1000iu HCG Eod for 10days.
100mcg shot of Triptorelin
then 4 weeks of Clomid/Nolva
and I usually use 50mg of Proviron throughout although some guys don't like using Proviron in Pct.
ive fathered 2 kids while on this Pct aswell lol

 

[Muscle mechanic]

When I come off of long runs I use this protocol.
1000iu HCG Eod for 10days.
100mcg shot of Triptorelin
then 4 weeks of Clomid/Nolva
and I usually use 50mg of Proviron throughout although some guys don't like using Proviron in Pct.
ive fathered 2 kids while on this Pct aswell lol

I never used proviron in pct but I used it to boost libido and male functions while being low in testosterone while off after pct.
I also have used it to boost sperm. I had last son while on proviron during off time.
I am now in trt because I am through with having kids and it's easier to go from blast and cruise than cycle pct and come back.
Hcg I believe is good to keep things working but I don't believe in its use in pct. Possibly after pct to try and stimulate if still not up but not really either.
And agree on cycle it can keep things going making for easier come back in pct. But during pct it's suppressive and not a realistic sign or means of recovery!
It's a false signal to testes nothing more!

Triptorelin (GnRH) agonist is something that can be good or real bad. I researched it thought about it but wasn't comfortable with trying it, at all!

Nolva and clomid or the best thing available right now that will boost LH and FSH without suppressing!

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[FL1025]

I never used proviron in pct but I used it to boost libido and male functions while being low in testosterone while off after pct.
I also have used it to boost sperm. I had last son while on proviron during off time.
I am now in trt because I am through with having kids and it's easier to go from blast and cruise than cycle pct and come back.
Hcg I believe is good to keep things working but I don't believe in its use in pct. Possibly after pct to try and stimulate if still not up but not really either.
And agree on cycle it can keep things going making for easier come back in pct. But during pct it's suppressive and not a realistic sign or means of recovery!
It's a false signal to testes nothing more!

Triptorelin (GnRH) agonist is something that can be good or real bad. I researched it thought about it but wasn't comfortable with trying it, at all!

Nolva and clomid or the best thing available right now that will boost LH and FSH without suppressing!

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Yea the HCG use wasprior to starting PCT, I didn't write it clear. Man I like the Triptorelin after long cycles it seems like I recover faster. I wouldn't recommend just using trip as some do but I think right before the Clomid and Nolva make a huge difference purely broscience though.