New Cycle Thoughts

[tatzoo]

Currently on the last couple of weeks of my current cycle, 500mg of Test E and 200mg of Tren E - I have seen amazing results, literally no sides (except heartburn from Tren). I have a few questions though...

1. Do I need to completely come off the Test E or can I drop the dosage of Test E for 4+ weeks and start new cycle?

2. Next Cycle is 750mg of Test E, with 500mg of Deca every week, or 325mg & 250mg every 4 days, how will the cycles compare?

3. If I come completely off Test E I have clomid, but what else can I use from the advanced supp store to help my pct?

Thanks for your input...

 

[Presser]

Currently on the last couple of weeks of my current cycle, 500mg of Test E and 200mg of Tren E - I have seen amazing results, literally no sides (except heartburn from Tren). I have a few questions though...

1. Do I need to completely come off the Test E or can I drop the dosage of Test E for 4+ weeks and start new cycle?

2. Next Cycle is 750mg of Test E, with 500mg of Deca every week, or 325mg & 250mg every 4 days, how will the cycles compare?

3. If I come completely off Test E I have clomid, but what else can I use from the advanced supp store to help my pct?

Thanks for your input...

Bro, first thing first, i pmed you a while back and haven't heard back, got a return to sender from your lottery order! ?? PLEASE PM ME ASAP!

Now to the question, not sure howling you've been running the testosterone enanthate so far, but i would most certainly change to a different testosterone ester if i was planning on continuing my cycle,

Also again no idea how long you have been running the cycle, but i would come off everything completely bro, do it right! Your not competing on stage right? Your body isn't what allows you to earn a living correct? if thats the case then why bother fucking up your endocrine system permanently!

Take the break and then start back up, and use different ester of testosterone if you decide not to take the break.

If you do take off completely , then you should grab some nolva, and clo from the mc store

 

[tatzoo]

I wanted to swap to Masteron and Prop as I'm getting used to pinning myself again. There was just a crazy deal on the Test E so I bought several of them. Since I'm still in gain mass mode I figured swapping to deca would be ok. The tren has given me serious lean muscle but the heartburn is killing me, I'm popping zantac like tic tacs...

 

[DefMetalLifter]

I agree with Presser. If your not competing then take time off between cycles. This will let your receptors clear up and the next cycle will be more effective because of this. It would be fine if you threw in a short ester and extended the cycle a little. But Deca is a long ester and you would have to be doing another cycle do reap the benefits.

 

[HackTwat]

tatzoo, remind me how old you are again....

What you are contemplating is being on Test the rest of your life. Or, its sounding like it to me. Sounds like your saying you want to drop the Test E dose to a cruise level for 4+ weeks and then blast again. Am I right? If so, you are looking at a point of no return or at least a 4-6 month return to normal Test levels once you do stop. I'm not critising brother cause I have been blasting and cruising for over 2 years now. Just warning you of the pros and cons.
Come off completely and get your natty Test back in a few weeks or so. Cruise for 4+ weeks and blast again, but if ya do, if you want to come off completely after such an extensive cycle, Its gonna be a tuff Mutha Fucka!!

Anyway, what are your thoughts??

 

[glycomann]

Tell you what, I am 52 and I'm going off for a few months as my usual. It does your body more good than you will read on most boards. 8 weeks minimum. longer is better. 16 weeks on average to start making natural gains again.

 

[HackTwat]

Agree with glycoman. I saw better gains by stopping altogether and clearing out those receptors. Now that I'm on TRT blasting and cruising, every pound I gain I really have to fight for. By cycling and coming off, gains just come better brother.....

 

[glycomann]

Currently on the last couple of weeks of my current cycle, 500mg of Test E and 200mg of Tren E - I have seen amazing results, literally no sides (except heartburn from Tren). I have a few questions though...

1. Do I need to completely come off the Test E or can I drop the dosage of Test E for 4+ weeks and start new cycle?

2. Next Cycle is 750mg of Test E, with 500mg of Deca every week, or 325mg & 250mg every 4 days, how will the cycles compare?

3. If I come completely off Test E I have clomid, but what else can I use from the advanced supp store to help my pct?

Thanks for your input...

A protocol that seems to work well is use hCG starting one 1/2 life after your last injection for 2 weeks. Add in Clomid at 2 half lifes after your last inj.

1 2000 iu hCG every 3 days
2 1000 iu hCG every 3 days
3-6 50 mg Clomid a day before bed

You could add in triptorelin 100 mcg one shot at start of week 3 if you feel experimental. That's all you need. More is not better. The idea is to get the testes going producing sex hormones again but not desensitized, block estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus and pituitary to get GnRH, FSH and LH going,

 

[charliebigspuds]

if your not competing most guys will run 2 cylces per year it seems the standard 3 on 3 off..only trouble is u feel like shit for a few weeks..just like me now..but in the long run i always cycle off..any more than 3 months jump on some hcg..

 

[Masher59]

As others have stated I would clear the system and give the receptors a break.

 

[tatzoo]

tatzoo, remind me how old you are again....

What you are contemplating is being on Test the rest of your life. Or, its sounding like it to me. Sounds like your saying you want to drop the Test E dose to a cruise level for 4+ weeks and then blast again. Am I right?

Im 39, 6'1" 215lbs and built pretty lean. Great genetics and I grow fast when using AAS and in the gym. You are exactly right, I was looking into a low dose for 4 weeks and then blasting again. Keep in mind this is my first cycle in over 4 years. I have never done any short ester cycles, and ever had more than 500mg of test e in a week. I'm not trying to compete, just keep a good physique for my age and I have certainly enjoyed the test benefits in the bedroom.

Im pretty sure I had low T prior to this cycle which is approaching 12 weeks, I had blood work done a year ago and the T levels were on the lower side of normal. Im not opposed to coming completely off, just wanted to know the pro's and con's either way...

 

[guardianactual]

Tatz I'm alil confused... u want to only take 4 weeks off then go back on? & u wanna swap Test E for Test P? Just tryin' to get ur idea plan.

 

[tatzoo]

Tatz I'm alil confused... u want to only take 4 weeks off then go back on? & u wanna swap Test E for Test P? Just tryin' to get ur idea plan.

Im actually on Cyp right now, my mistake. My tren runs out in a week and I have test e on hand... I was curious about the following options...

1. Do I come completely off the cyp and tren

2. If I swap to Test E, can I low dose for 4-6 weeks (guessing 125mg a week) and then back up to 750mg a week after 4-6 weeks of low dose

3. I've done deca once and tren almost every time I have run a cycle, will I notice physical in my body differences between deca and tren?

I also have clomid and a complete PCT setup to 100% go back to natural levels... Its almost summer/beach season and I want to continue to build and look good but not at the expense of messing my body up...

 

[Metal85]

I'd run it right through, but I also hate coming off like no one's business
get the nolva or whichever one is letro

 

[guardianactual]

So ur doing a bridge w/ test E? I wouldn't do less than 200mg EW personally. Test Cyp & Test Ent are pretty much the same so yeah I'd just do 1. If u plan to run deca I'd drop Tren bc of progestin I'm unsure how u'll feel on deca... it is weaker than Tren tho. Are you planning to use deca to bulk cut recomp?

 

[Presser]

so ur doing a bridge w/ test e? I wouldn't do less than 200mg ew personally. Test cyp & test ent are pretty much the same so yeah i'd just do 1. If u plan to run deca i'd drop tren bc of progestin i'm unsure how u'll feel on deca... It is weaker than tren tho. Are you planning to use deca to bulk cut recomp?

agree with my man here!

 

[HackTwat]

Yep!!