next cycle

[dorian123]

here is the next cycle that I plan on running...

week 1-12... supertest 400 2.5 G/week (HGH brand)
week 1-2...anadrol 100mg/day (axio brand)
week 1-12...tren complex 500mg/week (axio brand)
week 3-6...IGF 75 mcg/day (MCAS brand)

any suggestions?

 

[Chris250]

an anti estrogen (arimadex) if your going to do, 2 grams plus a week...you need anti - E

 

[nuknuk]

an anti estrogen (arimadex) if your going to do, 2 grams plus a week...you need anti - E

agree

 

[dreww]

here is the next cycle that I plan on running...

week 1-12... supertest 400 2.5 G/week (HGH brand)
week 1-2...anadrol 100mg/day (axio brand)
week 1-12...tren complex 500mg/week (axio brand)
week 3-6...IGF 75 mcg/day (MCAS brand)

any suggestions?

is the tren complex like tren hex?

why only 2 weeks of anadrol? sides?

 

[dorian123]

an anti estrogen (arimadex) if your going to do, 2 grams plus a week...you need anti - E

actually NO, weird as it may sound I've never had a problem with the estrogen...just my genetics have some nolva on hand just in case but never had a problem with running this dose in past

 

[dorian123]

is the tren complex like tren hex?

why only 2 weeks of anadrol? sides?

it's a sust blend of tren... usually run tren A but if figure what the hell I'll give this a go and see what happens-a 1st for me so we'll see

as for the anadrol I'm trying to keep the stress on the liver to a min. just a way to kick start my program

 

[The Dude]

here is the next cycle that I plan on running...

week 1-12... supertest 400 2.5 G/week (HGH brand)
week 1-2...anadrol 100mg/day (axio brand)
week 1-12...tren complex 500mg/week (axio brand)
week 3-6...IGF 75 mcg/day (MCAS brand)

any suggestions?

Damn bro, that's a heavy cycle! How big are you??

 

[dorian123]

I'm a tiny guy... 6'1 240lbs
been systematically raising the dosage over the years:weight:

always had a six pack, imagine a bigger version of Ken Shamrock

 

[The Dude]

I'm a tiny guy... 6'1 240lbs
been systematically raising the dosage over the years:weight:

always had a six pack, imagine a bigger version of Ken Shamrock

Yeah, you're a pretty big boy. Looks pretty good. From now on when I decide to raise doses from my HRT levels I will run a good amount of prop in the beginning as the other esters take about 5 weeks to hit me. That's the only thing I would add.

 

[dorian123]

right on, the supertest has a good amount of prop in it, so I decided to try the anadrol again. Been about 2 years since I've run any anadrol...use to turn my stomach so it made it hard to eat. We'll see this time around.

 

[Shaptown]

seriously, throw in aromasin at 12.5mg at least. it's only going to do you more benefit than harm; less aromatization equals more test to exert anabolic effect.

I would also run 50mg Proviron ED for the duration of this cycle as well. It effectively lowers SHBG, allowing free test to be further increased.

Lastly, run some Pramipexole. It is a great dopamine agonist. Not only does it prevent prolactin induced gyno, but it has been shown to actually increase growth hormone release from the anterior pituitary during REM sleep (take it right before bed for this reason). Start at a dose of 0.25mg and titrate up to 1.0mg the second week, and run it for the duration that you run the tren.

I believe from what i have listed, you will experience amazing gains in addition to what you would have experienced from this cycle if you did not utilize these compounds. Also, I would honestly use the A-bombs for at least 4 weeks. In my experience you aren't going to see a great effect from them by running them only 2 weeks. What I would honestly do is drop the dosage to 75mg for 4 weeks. Since the compounds I listed contribute MINIMALLY (i mean seriously proviron and aromasin - not at all) to raises in liver values, at least at the dosages listed.

Best of luck and i know you will enjoy the cycle with the compounds you listed in addition to the ones i listed!

 

[dorian123]

huh interesting, I've ran anti estrogen before on a few cycles and never noticed any diff. however, the pramipexole that you mention does have my curious...
might have to give that a go, plan on 2 weeks with the abombs then see how I feel and how the gains are going...something that I've noticed is after the 1st 2 weeks on anadrol I tend to get tired all the time
I'll have to play it by ear and compare the gains to how shitty I feel

 

[Chris250]

why only run the IGF from weeks 3-6 ? I personally think you should run it much longer...If you think your body gets use to it (Palumbo theory) then run it EOD and higher doses (although 75mcg is plenty high) I do believe when the goal is muscle gaining, or bulking...then things like IGF, HGH, or other peptides (GHRP, CJC, ect,ect) doing them every other day, or every 3rd is at a high dose might be better for gaining...(Maybe, been reading alot of studies, and real life gym stuff)

oh yeah, the proviron thing by shaptown...i totally agree..Proviron in any cycle will make gains better...and the libido will be freaking threw the roof...

 

[dorian123]

hmm, I usually run IGF ed at 75mcg for 4 weeks you think I should bump this up? How many weeks? Say 6 weeks?

 

[Shaptown]

in my current cycle i am running 100mcg IGF ED for 100 days straight soo....to each his own. Honestly every protocol works, and I think you should pin it more frequently if possible.

 

[dorian123]

damn dude you must have some money comin out your ass...just joking

think I'll go with 6 weeks this time after I'm done with the anadrol and see how that works

 

[big lifter]

good cycle, if you could afford it if up the igf for sure, my last few cycles ive been running a minimum of 120mcg a day, somtimes up to 200mcg IMO definately worth theinvestment. running drol only 2 weeks isnt really worth having it in there, your high dose test will hit you plenty quickly enough anyway you will have 1g+ test in your first week (more if you double up your first shot). gains follow the sides mate, if your dropping the anadrol at 2 weeks because thats when your feeling like shit off it, your more than likely cutting yourself short from the gains you'd be getting if you continued to run it for another 2-4 weeks. proviron is a good addition to every cycle, the rest of the ancillarys you can do without, you said it yourself that you've never had a problem with estro in the past, have some anti e on hand just incase you need it but im a beleiver in letting the estrogen do its thing while ur on a bulker, it plays a very important role in growing so if you dont get the sides from it just let it be. resticting your estrogen will seriously put you back in your muscle gains and definately your strength gains (your always your strongest when your watery, stronger=more weight=more gains)

have fun with it mate, im doing a similar cycle in the next couple of weeks, just waitin for my igf.

 

[dorian123]

yeah probably run the anadrol for 4 weeks, run the IGF for 6 weeks, and add the proviron

that seems to be the most logical from the info I've been gathering

thanks for the input guys