oral cycle only

[XXXX]

So what if I want to do an oral cycle only? Just looking for some opinions here no jokes please on the oral thing. Its because im at work most of the day and difficult to do injections and dispose of the syringes appropiately where im at or even at home to get up early and remember to poke and remove the band aid. I havent done a cycle in about 18 months besides igf and that wasnt easy to do had to preload all syringes. So heres the stats and looking for opinions in case i havent thought of anything. In excellent healt liver values below norm chol is excellent and heart rate that of a triathalete. I just finished my physical two weeks ago and all results are in.
So stats:
age 37
6ft
237lbs 12.4 %bf
workout is 6 days a week
1 day is strictly cardio for 45 min high intensity
rest is 4-6 reps heavy weight 5 sets including warm up
I follow each weight day with 20 min cardio
I eat between 4000-4500 calories a day in eight meals (it works for me)
240 grams of protein per day
fats are from peanut butter, olive oil and omega 3's (hey its working for me)
I posted a diet up a while back and i have adjusted it some but im looking to lean out and add a few lbs of muscle if i can.
Now what i dont want is thyroid stuff like t3, insulin, or clen (shit makes my heart race and i cant sleep at all at any dose)
So with that said let me hear it and see what we can come come up with IF this was a real situation.

XXXX

 

[Presser]

i never realy read about to many guys taking just oral cycles, so im prolly not much help. I do know the little that I have read about was usualy guys taking just dbol, lol, or drol only, but those guys are idiots. If it were me and if i were to have to choose to do an oral only cycle, i would definatly choose to do anavar prolly at about 80-120mg dails.

 

[The Dude]

Honestly I wouldn't do any cycle if I had to use orals only. Are you saying you can't preload 10 or even 20 syringes with your doses and find 20 seconds to inject yourself 1 time a week?? I was doing 2 shots a week while I was visiting my family along with 20 other people.
If you are dead set on an oral only cycle I don't think you're going to find any positive feedback on it and you'll try to blaze your own path and in the end be disappointed. Seen it so many times before.

 

[big in vegas]

I agree with them, oral onlys aren't the best thing. I'd say if you can't find a few seconds a day (even while you're on the shitter) to pin yourself then you'd be better off not being on a cycle

 

[XXXX]

I agree but wanted to see what us experienced guys could come up with, im thinking outside the box. Lets get straight to the point where i work and stay most of my days its difficult, like smuggling a machine gun into prison. So i though of a different solution but I think this is gonna be the cycle im gonna do, beeen almost 2 years since any aas at all so Im throwing my whole clen thing out the window and doing this. Wehre should I add the EQ? running 14-16 weeks , i know 7 weeks blah blah but loved it and want to incorporate it in this cycle as well.


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or

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Any suggesstions to this?
Im looking for suggestions so go ahead and post them im sure i have forgotten certain rules of thumb and such.

I was just think we could come up with a good oral cycle between us all, like proviron,oral tren, var or even m-1t...

 

[The Dude]

I know Anavar is awesome, just expensive for guys doses. Oral Tren I don't know about. What about Anavar, Dbol, Nolvadex, and Proviron? It's not optimal, but they are not very liver toxic according to my bloodwork. I'm trying to think of what else...

 

[XXXX]

Thanks Dude, at least were thinking now, another problem is some are difficult to obtain, so im thinking readily available items.

 

[nuknuk]

IMO, I think a all oral cycle is fine. Guess its depends what what and how many drugs you want to take.

 

[XXXX]

I did have one guy at the gym say Var, winny, arimi, nolva he did that for weeks before the contest and he looks pretty good. its really the short acting stuff im after and not leaving a trail of injectable stuff around

 

[Chris250]

Coundnt you do at least one inj. per week. Say long acting test, with some orals...It would only be one inj. per week. Could do it sunday at home. Then be done with it...

 

[Pharm_Fed]

If you don't even have 60 seconds do give yourself a shot, how do you have any time to train?!

 

[XXXX]

lol its not about the time its about the place smurf. I was just trying to stay away from it if at all possible, I got rid of all syringes and such because I cant dispose of them quickly. Its a complicated situation but i take pills all day at work headache or vitamins etc. so orals will blend right in to what i needed to do. i leave work go straight to the gym then home then bed, then up again at 430 am work at 5am till 5pm traffic to the gym then gym for 1.5 -2 hours then home eat and bed at 930pm almost everyday. I pack everything i need with me. Like i said I could do it just wanted to brainstorm and see if there was one possible. Besides you have to order the syringes and such and you cannot by them here OTC anymore without a script.

 

[XXXX]

Coundnt you do at least one inj. per week. Say long acting test, with some orals...It would only be one inj. per week. Could do it sunday at home. Then be done with it...

thats why i was think EQ at 600mgs a week every sunday and orals the rest of the week..

 

[XXXX]

i never realy read about to many guys taking just oral cycles, so im prolly not much help. I do know the little that I have read about was usualy guys taking just dbol, lol, or drol only, but those guys are idiots. If it were me and if i were to have to choose to do an oral only cycle, i would definatly choose to do anavar prolly at about 80-120mg dails.

that would cost a fortune brotha! lol

 

[graniteman]

I'm trying this one now

I did have one guy at the gym say Var, winny, arimi, nolva he did that for weeks before the contest and he looks pretty good. its really the short acting stuff im after and not leaving a trail of injectable stuff around

I understand where you're comin from on the pins. My 'bro' is in a situation where you just cant have them.. for the time being anyways..
how bout this one i got from a well respected mod

wks 1-4 .. 50-60 mgs d-bol \ 50 mg's anadrol -i hour b4 workout

wks 5-6 ...50-60 mg's dbol \ 75 mg's winnie

wks 7-10 winnie 100 mg's a day
follow up with nolva

B4 EVERYONE GOES BALLISITIC!!.. Iknow it's very hard on the bod and $$$...but sometimes situations and occupations call for it...SPECIALLY when you've done cycles....cycles without supps is like Christmas with NO Presents!! lol

 

[Presser]

that would cost a fortune brotha! lol

lol, would it,lol, sorry i havent a clue what var is going for these days, sorry

 

[big in vegas]

Can you get your hands on any tbol? Anavar, andarol, proviron are all great, but funds may become the problem then

 

[XXXX]

lol, would it,lol, sorry i havent a clue what var is going for these days, sorry

Inflataion brotha, I assume anyways since everything else is raising in price, its just a forecasted guess..lol
Where i work ...I know it goes to some through scripts...they pay around 12$ a tab through the insurance company for it.
So im just guessing..lol

 

[freakinthegym]

Can you get your hands on any tbol? Anavar, andarol, proviron are all great, but funds may become the problem then

that sounds pretty good ..,, i think hes doesnt want to stick himself...

 

[XXXX]

Its not about not wanting too. its not my first rodeo brothas. Its about something totally different, for one dont want anyone else knowing who comes over or the ladies who clean my house finding anything at all. Second is parents drop by alot because they love my central air and large deck, and work. I work at the ******* training center and everything but vitamins and pills like aspirin,etc gets checked. I sometimes end up staying with them on the travels to other places and cany bring needles on planes when im gone for two weeks, but vitamins and meds in bottles with my name with just one kind of tablet in it is ok..see the reasoning here.
I just wanted to see if us veterans could actually think of a decent oral cycle just in these types of circumstances.