r3IFG-1 -- Anybody UNHAPPY ?
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crankin'stein
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Bump for some answers.
Sorry I haven't tried IGF yet.
Sorry I haven't tried IGF yet.
sarcoplasm
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IGF by itself did nothing (or little) for me. I would never use it again without other compounds. I think the same can be said for HGH.
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sweatmachine
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I reached my all time highest weight on the stuff.
proud13
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IGF causes naseau from a too high dosage and b/c the majority of the IGF receptors are *unfortunately found in the GI tract.
If you keep the dosages low you will have better *muscle gains than you would if you were using HGH b/c IGF is 10 x stronger. Think about it this way 1 I.U of HGH is equivalent to 4-6 mcg of IGF and if you're taking 40mcg a day (20mcg am/pm) then you're getting roughly the equivalent of 6-10 I.U.'s of HGH a day which is a good amount esp for 30 days.
Eat well, keep dosages low, use AAS while on the IGF, train your ass off and sleep. Those are the key ingredients for growth.
Even when I went off everything for the 12 wks b/c of ER visit, with no training, eating like shit and no supplements I kept alot of my size which means it was not water weight and instead new muscle growth. Now I'm back in the gym clean and I have good size....Next week I start.....deca, cyp, dbol, letrozole, propecia, IGF, IL-15 and myogro. Uh-oh!!!!
If you keep the dosages low you will have better *muscle gains than you would if you were using HGH b/c IGF is 10 x stronger. Think about it this way 1 I.U of HGH is equivalent to 4-6 mcg of IGF and if you're taking 40mcg a day (20mcg am/pm) then you're getting roughly the equivalent of 6-10 I.U.'s of HGH a day which is a good amount esp for 30 days.
Eat well, keep dosages low, use AAS while on the IGF, train your ass off and sleep. Those are the key ingredients for growth.
Even when I went off everything for the 12 wks b/c of ER visit, with no training, eating like shit and no supplements I kept alot of my size which means it was not water weight and instead new muscle growth. Now I'm back in the gym clean and I have good size....Next week I start.....deca, cyp, dbol, letrozole, propecia, IGF, IL-15 and myogro. Uh-oh!!!!
supersport
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Proud 13-enlighten us a little on the IL-15. Homonunculus wrote an interesting post about it, and I am sure there are many here that would like to hear what you have to say about it. I read you are part of a research team (or something to that effect) at a university in one of your posts. Alright bro-no holding back (LOL!)
-spill your guts for us man!!!!
-spill your guts for us man!!!!
proud13
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I posted a bunch of information on all kinds of cytokines and growth factors in another post supersport. I'll find it and post a link to it for you. We have many options in our future to push the boundaries of what our genetics limit us to and with knowledge and experimentation there will be thousands of Ronnie Colemans in 20 years.
sarcoplasm
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Well to answer your question some things work best or only in synergy with other "factors" included. I'm told GH is like this , it will do little to produce mucles mass on it's own, so it is best used with aas/insulin.
Out of those that are raving about IGF-1 I think few if any are using it ALONE.
If IGF was a major mass builder on it'd OWN it wuld be invaluable as a bridging compound as it does not affect the HPTA. One could remain anabolic both on and off cycle. I don't know if this is the case though.
Sarcoplasm
Out of those that are raving about IGF-1 I think few if any are using it ALONE.
If IGF was a major mass builder on it'd OWN it wuld be invaluable as a bridging compound as it does not affect the HPTA. One could remain anabolic both on and off cycle. I don't know if this is the case though.
Sarcoplasm
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$$$$$ that's about all i can say!! I like some others got a really good pump especially on chest days. I injected into each bi on alt days for 4 wks. noticed also some fat lose. however, over all results weren't incredible for the price of the one ml. My bud has had great luck though cycling one month Igf-1 and one month insulin. He also made the suggestion that it needs to be used with other compounds like prop to relly notice results but I haven't convinced myself to drop the cash on another cycle of the stuff.
$$$$$ that's about all i can say!! I like some others got a really good pump especially on chest days. I injected into each bi on alt days for 4 wks. noticed also some fat lose. however, over all results weren't incredible for the price of the one ml. My bud has had great luck though cycling one month Igf-1 and one month insulin. He also made the suggestion that it needs to be used with other compounds like prop to relly notice results but I haven't convinced myself to drop the cash on another cycle of the stuff.
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Androedu
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MyoGro
Hey proud13,
In which website can I buy MyoGro?I want to inject 3 ml of MyoGro in my veins everyday,30 days a month!Can I inject MyoGro in my veins?
Hey proud13,
In which website can I buy MyoGro?I want to inject 3 ml of MyoGro in my veins everyday,30 days a month!Can I inject MyoGro in my veins?
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saudades
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The only thing I'm unhappy with is that my body seems to react to the BA in the product. My skin is bruised from underneath (showing localized yellow and a couple of darker bruises on my smaller muscles, a.k.a. biceps and triceps (I can take a picture and attach it later if anyone wants to see). Apparently the extended soreness in those muscles was a little more than I thought. My legs seems to have no problem with it. It isn't jaundice because I'm not taking anything else except my regular HRT injection of test cyp (which I've been on for over five years), and nothing else is yellow (like my eyes) and there are no other symptoms.
I have made some pretty good gains with IGF I think.
I have made some pretty good gains with IGF I think.
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saudades
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One more thing I'm a little unhappy with is that I seem to be losing weight with the IGF. I'm eating more than I was (I think), yet still I've lost a total of five pounds now in the two weeks I've been on IGF--down to 190. I look more muscular and possibly leaner when I look in the mirror, so I think I've gained muscle, but the scale says I've lost weight. Did I lose fat or am I also losing a bit of muscle too? I'm doing my best to eat, but maybe I'm just not getting the diet part under control, or my body is not reacting normally to the IGF.
Cannons
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tonykemp said:
Thats why I don't like getting on the scale too much bro, it fucks with your mind. Let the mirror do the talking. If you look more muscular and leaner, then you are. You'd be suprised how much fat and water you were probably holding, just be happy that the weight you are now is "quality" weight! I'm a big advocate of using the mirror instead of the scales to judge progress!!
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