Slin-Humalog specifically

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PolishHammer

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Ok, I just started taking slin(humalog) pwo ONLY.

I've finally worked my way up to 10ius.

My only question is what works best for everyone here in terms of the after workout shake/meal or whatever while on slin?

Do you just take in carbs after the slin shot pwo? Then wait for your slin to peak before having a full meal with carbs and protein?

Or do you take in both carbs and protein right after the workout and then when your slin peaks or another variation?

Also, what ratios do you use so as to minimize fat gains?

Currently, I'm taking 10ius pwo ONLY, then I'm downing about 60 grams of carbs and around 50 grams of protein. An hour later, I will have another meal with a varying number of carbs and protein, but with no fat. Usually its potatoes and some kind of meat or egg whites.

I'm trying to find out what works best for everyone here in regard to minimizing fat gains.

Thanks!
 
If possible I'd also like to ask everyone how many carbs to each iu do you take pertaining to humalog. I did my chest/deltoid workout today. Afterwards, I took 10ius, followed that up with around 50 grams of protein and 60 grams of carbs. Its 10:37pm right now, 15 minutes after I should have eaten my peak meal, and I'm not feeling any hypo what so ever...

I'm only 150lbs.. perhaps thats why....

Either way.. I'm trying to figure out the best amount of carbs and protein to take intitally after the injection, and then at the 1 hour peak mark. It seems like for me 60 grams of carbs is more than enough. However, how can I be sure that I'm not pulling any reserves from my liver? Would I feel it if my body were pulling from other sources such as liver?
 
Bro, it's not a good idea to take slin close to when you go to sleep.

BUT....It does seem quite strange that you're not going hypo with Humulog on only 6g of carbs per iu and missing your "Peak Meal".

I feel hypo at anything below 8g of carbs per iu.

Are you refridgerating the Slin? If not it could possibly have gone bad if exposed to too much heat. Other than it being bad I would be extremely cautious going that low with the carbs. Are you sure that you're not getting any excess carbs from anything or perhaps you're eating a fairly big meal (with carbs) before injecting the slin.

Give us more info on your daily diet with corresponding times.
 
Everyone is different and there is some people who do go down to 5g per IU with no problems..... If you are bulking, then I would stick with 10g of carbs per IU. For right after your shot, you can use a protein shake with Dextrose for your carbs.... Or you can do what I do, and drink a carbo force then a protein shake. You definitely want to have both carbs and protein after your workout with your slin. Also you should throw some creatine in your shake, as the insulin makes it a lot more effective.

To minimize fat gains, control your fat intake while the slin is active. Also don't over do it with the carbs.
 
The slin is in the fridge yes. I'm almost certain the slin is intact and still viable as I ordered the slin with a friend, and he has felt himself going hypo a few times.

Yes, creatine is greatness with the slin, I use it every single time :)


I also did not eat a big meal or anything with slow burning carbs before my workout.

And about taking the slin so close to bed... I've been doing that all the time.. thats just the way my schedule works out. I don't feel any danger from it once I'm past my peak, especially if I eat a carb/protein meal for the peak. Last night as an exception, I usually eat a peak meal, but just for experimentation sakes, I wanted to see if I could handle the slin without a peak meal.

My next training day is tomorrow(thrusday) aka leg day... I'll let you guys know how it goes, I'm planning on taking 50 grams of carbs plus around 50 grams of protein after the slin shot, and then eating a peak meal. The peak meal will vary day to day.. but it will always contain some protein and slower burning carbs, and NO FAT!
Woot
 
Bro. You really shouldn't play around with slin when going to sleep...... If by any small chance you go hypo while you are sleeping, you would most likely go into a coma, and possibly die....
 
Your concern for me is warming :wink:

However, I'm fairly certain that I am fine doing what I am doing.

Besides I always take in some carbs before I go to bed if it wasn't that far away from my peak.

For instance last night, I downed 30 more grams of carbs, actually sugars from apple juice just to be certain. I am confident that with an extra 30 grams, I would have been fine, seeing as how the peak never even made me go the slightest bit hypo.
 
But what kind of ratio of carbs to protein do you guys use right after the humalog shot and for the peak meal?

I hate fat gains! Although I don't think I've experienced any yet.. I don't want any! :angry:
 
PolishHammer said:
I didn't mean to come off as arrogant or rude towards you, if I did.
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Not at all bro.

I wasn't being sarcastic in my response. The way you do it is up to you. I told you my opinion on it.
 
10 iu's humalog PWO immediately down 100g's carbs 50 g's protein. wait an hour then Isopure - 50 g's protein then an hour later after the shows over my blood sugar is low bordering hypo
I've measeured it and its consistantly in the 50's at this time the slin should be gone and i'll eat a little more carbs or maybe a maltodextrin carb drink to bring BS back up and feel totally normal.

dont goto sleep
 
Bro, You're too young to be playing with slin...I do say play, because you ARE being arrogant and going against the advice of slin veterans by taking it close to going to sleep and with so few carbs (if you are in fact only consuming that little)...if you continue to do so I will not be surprised if you slip into a coma or go into insulin shock then die...Slin is an unpredictable drug...it can affect you differently on a day to day basis...I know this from personal experience...this is the last advice I will give you on this. Be careful...

I sure as hell know Slin scares me...its amazing how you act like its nothing at all. I've had my close calls with Slin....its nothing to take lightly.
 
Believe me I've taken proper precautions ok?

I have a sitter with me pretty much 24/7... who is very knowledgeable in this area.

Most of the time if not all of the time I go to bed about 2 hours after my peak, which according to what I've read is more than enough time for the slin to not be a worry. If I do go to bed shortly after the peak, which I've only done once or twice, I down some carbs beforehand.

I'm not taking this lightly. However, if I'm taking in only 50 grams of carbs and then not eating a peak meal, to me it seems like my body is handling the slin just fine, so if I go to bed I still take in additional carbs just to be safe.

My usual plan for pwo slin eating is down 60 grams of carbs, as well as 50 grams of protein. Afterwards, peak meal comes, 8oz of lean chicken with a cup of long grain rice.

I really appreciate the advice and concern, but I really just want some advice on this slin in terms of it not affecting me so much.

Perhaps I have a strong tolerance to insulin already?

I'm guessing I could monitor my blood sugar level with one of those devices diabetics get? Are they sold at walgreens?
 
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If you are skipping meals there's no reason for you to take slin. I know you are young and think you have everything under control and know more than the vets we have here on our board. You don't! If you're lucky enough not to kill yourself, using your unconventional and extremely unsafe methods, you will realize this is true.

If you feel like the guys here are a little hard on you, it's true. If you choose to continue your slin use, and I'm sure you will, at least raise your initial carb intake to 80g, and by no means should you ever skip a meal (that's plain stupid).

I'm sure I will get some smart remarks from you about my comments and how you know what you are doing. I will say one more thing, there is no reason for you to be using slin or any other enhancing products right now. You're at the age where you body is primed for growth; all you need to do is eat, train, and rest.
 
GetnBigr said:
If you are skipping meals there's no reason for you to take slin. I know you are young and think you have everything under control and know more than the vets we have here on our board. You don't! If you're lucky enough not to kill yourself, using your unconventional and extremely unsafe methods, you will realize this is true.

If you feel like the guys here are a little hard on you, it's true. If you choose to continue your slin use, and I'm sure you will, at least raise your initial carb intake to 80g, and by no means should you ever skip a meal (that's plain stupid).

I'm sure I will get some smart remarks from you about my comments and how you know what you are doing. I will say one more thing, there is no reason for you to be using slin or any other enhancing products right now. You're at the age where you body is primed for growth; all you need to do is eat, train, and rest.
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I agree 100% and back him up on all his statements!
 
Too many people start using slin or gh way too early, and not understanding the risks involved. Did I see Polishhammer that you are 150 pounds? What happened to building a base first?

I have this idiot trainer in my gym. Just started his first cycle of test, now he plans to add gh and slin to it in a few weeks. Just last month, he was asking me what a CC was, now he thinks he's an expert and probably going to fu(k up his health. Oh, and he weighs 150 pounds too.
 
I think we, as humans, want things RIGHT NOW or yesterday. That doesn't and will not happen in this arena. It takes time, determination, consistancy, planning, proper diet, proper training, and rest just to name a few, to accomplish your goals in bodybuilding and fitness. Sure, there are products out there that will assist us in reaching our goals quicker, BUT, I said BUT, one should have done his or her part building a good foundation. Fitness is as much mental as it is physical. Don't jump the gun.
 
Its pointless trying to help him...He will do whatever he wants...He thinks he knows everything there is to know about slin. Listen to the kid. He said don't worry about him.

BTW - Slin should be the last on your list of supplements. I would suggest that you take creatine, and prohormones b4 slin...at least death isn't included on the side effects list.
 
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