deca246 said:yeah on tren I had shortness of breath, cardio sucked during this time but if you practice yoga breathing it will help you a ton.
deca246 said:N.V.S. just find a place where you can chill alone for about 5 to 10 minutes. sit down sitting straight up.
First you take a deep breath in through your nose and out through your nose
Second you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the mouth
Third you take a deep breath in through the nose and out through the mouth
Fourth you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the nose. This will relax your whole body do this while putting the backside of your hand into the palm of your other hand, I didnt think it would work but my GF turned me on to this and I havent had shortness of breath sinse, let me know how you feel.
deca246 said:N.V.S. just find a place where you can chill alone for about 5 to 10 minutes. sit down sitting straight up.
First you take a deep breath in through your nose and out through your nose
Second you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the mouth
Third you take a deep breath in through the nose and out through the mouth
Fourth you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the nose. This will relax your whole body do this while putting the backside of your hand into the palm of your other hand, I didnt think it would work but my GF turned me on to this and I havent had shortness of breath sinse, let me know how you feel.
Bluebuddha said:I had wheezing with tren acetate and also after taking a deep breath, my lungs felt like they continued to expand/stretch afterward for a split second. I could especially notice it while laying in bed on my back. I even went to the doctor and and they heard a slight weeze as well but contributed it to asthma and prescribed an inhaler, which actually worked. Steam seemed to help and minimize this issue as well. Once off the tren, the wheezing disappeared
If you take past history and experience of different accounts from different people, I believe the infamous tren/fina cough is somehow related. Being that your using the acetate form, I would go with tren as the culprit. Reduce your dose and see how it goes.
blue
deca246 said:N.V.S. believe me it is the tren, I know several people who have takin this product alone and had the same problems, there are other anabolics that do this as well you just have to take the time to do the above breathing exercises even when your on an off cycle practice your breathing.I was told yrs ago that I was breathing like a person severly overweight and Im not which raised some eyebrows because the guy that asked me was a sports medicine doctor. Keep taking your same dosages, practice your breathing, and mke sure you sleep on your side whenever posible.
pincushion said:i get fina cough every cycle and its hard to take a deep breath. and im on 900mgs of EQ right now with 1200mgs of cyp and 750mgs of Deca and its hard for me to walk around the track with my wife now without getting winded..
my money is on "pretty high"*N.V.S* said:How's your blood pressure with those doses?
nvs
Bluebuddha said:Update:
Tren- Fat burning and "fina cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization Posted on AR & IBB as well-
It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"
The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.
Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.
Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.
Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)
Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine
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