Trouble Breathing

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*N.V.S*

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Any of you guys ever have breathing issues while on a Tren Ace/EQ cycle?
I have had shortness of breath since i started my tren and was wondering if it could be cycle related.



nvs
 
See I have no problem with Tren and neither have i had issues with EQ. But i just added tren to my cycle and bam..i was in bed all week with a terrible cough and wheezing chest. I got to thinking maybe i had a cold, but then again, I am better now yet still short of breath. Was just wondering...

Thanks for posting MMX2.



nvs
 
yeah on tren I had shortness of breath, cardio sucked during this time but if you practice yoga breathing it will help you a ton.
 
deca246 said:
yeah on tren I had shortness of breath, cardio sucked during this time but if you practice yoga breathing it will help you a ton.


yoga breathing..what's that? Can you elaborate please?

nvs
 
N.V.S. just find a place where you can chill alone for about 5 to 10 minutes. sit down sitting straight up.
First you take a deep breath in through your nose and out through your nose
Second you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the mouth
Third you take a deep breath in through the nose and out through the mouth
Fourth you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the nose. This will relax your whole body do this while putting the backside of your hand into the palm of your other hand, I didnt think it would work but my GF turned me on to this and I havent had shortness of breath sinse, let me know how you feel.
 
deca246 said:
N.V.S. just find a place where you can chill alone for about 5 to 10 minutes. sit down sitting straight up.
First you take a deep breath in through your nose and out through your nose
Second you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the mouth
Third you take a deep breath in through the nose and out through the mouth
Fourth you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the nose. This will relax your whole body do this while putting the backside of your hand into the palm of your other hand, I didnt think it would work but my GF turned me on to this and I havent had shortness of breath sinse, let me know how you feel.


wow! Thanks buddy :) That's different, but anything will help right now. I don't know how i am going to get through the next 9 weeks if i am wheezing everytime i need to do my cardio. And i do 2 hours every single day. I can't even get too excited because i feel out of breath let alone do an hour of cardio on the stairmaster. But Tren has never done that to me before, which led me to believe that it must have been the tren EQ combo.
Don't know :(


nvs
 
deca246 said:
N.V.S. just find a place where you can chill alone for about 5 to 10 minutes. sit down sitting straight up.
First you take a deep breath in through your nose and out through your nose
Second you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the mouth
Third you take a deep breath in through the nose and out through the mouth
Fourth you take a deep breath in through the mouth and out through the nose. This will relax your whole body do this while putting the backside of your hand into the palm of your other hand, I didnt think it would work but my GF turned me on to this and I havent had shortness of breath sinse, let me know how you feel.


this sounds really cool actually
 
I had wheezing with tren acetate and also after taking a deep breath, my lungs felt like they continued to expand/stretch afterward for a split second. I could especially notice it while laying in bed on my back. I even went to the doctor and and they heard a slight weeze as well but contributed it to asthma and prescribed an inhaler, which actually worked. Steam seemed to help and minimize this issue as well. Once off the tren, the wheezing disappeared

If you take past history and experience of different accounts from different people, I believe the infamous tren/fina cough is somehow related. Being that your using the acetate form, I would go with tren as the culprit. Reduce your dose and see how it goes.

I also believe that some people develop a chemical sensitivity(possible allergy?) to the tren ace, as I've read and experienced a worsening of the cough after a length of time or repeated cycles.


blue
 
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Bluebuddha said:
I had wheezing with tren acetate and also after taking a deep breath, my lungs felt like they continued to expand/stretch afterward for a split second. I could especially notice it while laying in bed on my back. I even went to the doctor and and they heard a slight weeze as well but contributed it to asthma and prescribed an inhaler, which actually worked. Steam seemed to help and minimize this issue as well. Once off the tren, the wheezing disappeared

If you take past history and experience of different accounts from different people, I believe the infamous tren/fina cough is somehow related. Being that your using the acetate form, I would go with tren as the culprit. Reduce your dose and see how it goes.

blue

Could it just be the cumulative effect of the anabolics as i am on half the dose i normally run tren at?

nvs
 
N.V.S. believe me it is the tren, I know several people who have takin this product alone and had the same problems, there are other anabolics that do this as well you just have to take the time to do the above breathing exercises even when your on an off cycle practice your breathing.I was told yrs ago that I was breathing like a person severly overweight and Im not which raised some eyebrows because the guy that asked me was a sports medicine doctor. Keep taking your same dosages, practice your breathing, and mke sure you sleep on your side whenever posible.
 
deca246 said:
N.V.S. believe me it is the tren, I know several people who have takin this product alone and had the same problems, there are other anabolics that do this as well you just have to take the time to do the above breathing exercises even when your on an off cycle practice your breathing.I was told yrs ago that I was breathing like a person severly overweight and Im not which raised some eyebrows because the guy that asked me was a sports medicine doctor. Keep taking your same dosages, practice your breathing, and mke sure you sleep on your side whenever posible.



I always sleep on my side so i guess that's a good thing. I will definitely practice the breathing. It was very nice of you to help. Thank you!


nvs
 
i get fina cough every cycle and its hard to take a deep breath. and im on 900mgs of EQ right now with 1200mgs of cyp and 750mgs of Deca and its hard for me to walk around the track with my wife now without getting winded..
 
pincushion said:
i get fina cough every cycle and its hard to take a deep breath. and im on 900mgs of EQ right now with 1200mgs of cyp and 750mgs of Deca and its hard for me to walk around the track with my wife now without getting winded..


How's your blood pressure with those doses?



nvs
 
*N.V.S* said:
How's your blood pressure with those doses?



nvs
my money is on "pretty high" :D

eq made cardio easier for me, I figured it would help your body by increasinig the RBC count. Of course this is kinda dose dependent.
 
its been around 127 over 85 thats little higher then normal for me, normally around 115 over 71 give or take a few. but its been up as high a 160s over 110 before, thats when the dr. said time to take a break,and she put me on some meds untill it went down, now im off the meds and good to go.. other then the breathing thing...
 
Update:

Tren- Fat burning and "fina cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization Posted on AR & IBB as well-


It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)


Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine
user43390fgui8t
 
Bluebuddha said:
Update:

Tren- Fat burning and "fina cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization Posted on AR & IBB as well-


It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)


Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine
user43390fgui8t

well that was a nice read, thnx
 
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