IGF / Prohormone Cycle Log

I also wanted to post this brief review from a member of another forum that really seems to know his stuff.
His thread is the most informative one I have found relating to the use of Trest/DTA.
I have to give credit where credit is due, so here is the link to his thread. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252854-fps-review-trest.html
I highly recommend checking it out if you have ANY interest in Pure Oils products.



1) Characteristics of Trest

First, a little back ground
- http://www.ironmagazine.com/2012/tre...ent-explained/
- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=trestolone

There are a host of studies indicating the Trestolone (MENT) is a viable option in the medical/anti-agiing community. Basically, the studies summarize Trestolone as:

1) Extremely anabolic, roughly 2300:650 anabolic:androgenic ratio
2) Strong binding similar to Trenbolone, but behaves much like Testosterone
3) Although methylated, its hardly toxic
4) Converts to a methyl-estrogen quite readily
5) Half as hard on the prostate as Testosterone
6) Reports of elevated mood and libido

Bodybuilding communities have labeled it wet Tren and have concluded that it is useful in all but contest prep

Recently I did an 8 week cycle of this stuff and ran it up to as high as 25mg/day. I wanted to assess its ability to replace Test in TRT. 25mg/day is a low-moderate dose and is hardly considered abusive. Rest assured, next time the dose will be upwards of 100mg/day.

2) Positives
I think its gonna be hard to capture all the positives in one sweep, so as I recognize things about Trest that were better than Test, I'll come back to it and update. Trestolone Acetate, while not naturally found in the body, seems to be everything the natural sex hormone Test should have been. I mean, the stuff is incredible even at a low dose, making it practical to use for long periods of time or in combination with TRT. As I've said before, this stuff *****s Tren in potency, yet without making you feel insane or like death. The anabolic nature is obvious yet at 25mg/day, all of its characteristics are considered "tame". You don't realize how good it is until you stop taking it and go back to Test or PCT. As a TRT replacement, I give it a thumbs up. But really, ya'll are wanting to know how it stacks up in the typical KPI's that we track with steroids. So here you go:

1) Strength - its better than Test, but perhaps not as prevalent as Tren. I have not taken 300mg/wk yet, so I bet the strength factor is pretty impressive at those doses.

2) Pumps feel like Tren, but with less hour to hour vascularity. What I mean by that is the vascularity seems to show more when working the muscle, not just all the time.

3) Sex drive/mood - It *****s a high dose of Test and Masteron. I don't know that drug v. drug that anything else could compete.

4) Stamina - Like EQ

5) Recovery - Like EQ/Test/Tren. It really shines the most in this area. I'd compare it to Msten/DMZ in this area.

6) Cutting ability - While its not best suited for this, if you control the estrogen, you'll easily cut with it and significant
amounts in a short period of time. Remember, I only use 175mg/wk!

7) Bulking ability - Obviously in its most useful state here. High doses would likely deliver the best with the best results. More on this later when I review its bulking capability in the Decanoate ester and at higher doses.

3) Negatives

Honestly, estrogen conversion is all. I mean, we need that estrogen conversion to mimic Test, but it does have that tricky methyl-estrogen to deal with. As long as an AI is used throughout, its ok.

For the acetate, the daily IM doses. It sucks. It gets old. I hate it. Good thing its now in the Deconoate version, which at a low dose might be the nail in the coffin for Test in my TRT regimen. Granted, Trest Dec will be entirely different in a multitude of ways from the acetate version.

4) Formabolic - Good for IM AAS or sissy designer use only?

5) Best practices for Formabolic

6) Best application of Form
 
I HAVE A CLOSE FREIND UP CONN THAT HAS A PROHORMONE STORE HES SOME CRAZY SHIT
WAS GOING TO DO A PROHORMONE CYCLE BUTT LIKE AAS MORE.
WORKS OUT WITH POUND STONE WITCH IVE HAD THE PRIVLEDGE OF TRAINING THEY DO.
AND I THOUGHT COPS DONT DO SAUCE??????
KIDS A BEAST!!
DONT KNOW IF ITS AGAINST THE RULES TO PUT HIS SIGHT UP.
LET ME KNOW
 
I HAVE A CLOSE FREIND UP CONN THAT HAS A PROHORMONE STORE HES SOME CRAZY SHIT
WAS GOING TO DO A PROHORMONE CYCLE BUTT LIKE AAS MORE.
WORKS OUT WITH POUND STONE WITCH IVE HAD THE PRIVLEDGE OF TRAINING THEY DO.
AND I THOUGHT COPS DONT DO SAUCE??????
KIDS A BEAST!!
DONT KNOW IF ITS AGAINST THE RULES TO PUT HIS SIGHT UP.
LET ME KNOW

Ronnie Coleman is a cop. I wonder if he uses AAS?
 
Yeah, I'm sure he's planning his WOD for tomorrow as we speak, lol! I'm not a crossfit fan personally but I saw a girl wearing a shirt that said "he gave me burpees" HILARIOUS!

Damn funny girl!!! I see Rich Frowning, Jr quite often cause he lives nearby, but I'm not a Crossfit fan. I like my weights in a nice controlled movement, not thrown around haphazardly....
 
UPDATE: DAY 14


SO, today was Shoulders/Calves.
Had a great workout. I felt so good that I actually added a few exercises to the "Shortcut to Size" program.
I like it so far, but I'm not sure if it is quite enough. We shall see.

Anyway, there isn't much to report other that the fact that I can barely walk due to the Syntherol.
I've been @ 2ml per inside calf for 3 days now, and it's killing me. Now I know what they mean by "No pain, No gain". LOL!
I've been taking a few Tramadol, but honestly, it just doesn't help much.
I have some Kratom on the way. I've never tried it, but I heard it may help.

I'm gonna push through this though, because I'm extremely serious about getting my calves up at least a couple more inches asap.
The plan is to do 2ml/ED for 10 days, and then go to 3ml/ED for 10 days.
Some guys had had great succes with EOD injections of syntherol because the oil has a half-life of 1 week.
I may end up doing it that way, but we'll see.
I have read that they will stop hurting so much once you get a good bit of oil in them.
I'm willing to do what it takes, because if this fails, that means calf implants.

Not much else to report. Still feeling great, and my appetite is improving. I'm still sitting at 174-176lbs. (It fluctuates)

Tomorrow begins WEEK 3!!
Dropping in the TREST-DECA @ 150mg/Week, and switching to DIABOLIX @ 90mg/ED


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My nephew is a Crossfit Trainer. He is really skinny. I guess it looks fun, but I want to put on some mass first.
Seems like it would be great for cutting though.
I'm thinking about giving it a shot when I begin my cutting cycle.
 
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You guys do know I was kidding......right?

Lol! I've got a pretty good feeling they know you were kidding.
As for the calves, mine were really bad for a week. When I could walk it was on my tip toes for short periods. After 1 Week (maybe a bit less) I was good. Just have to get through the initial painful stretch. Massage and do a few minutes of calf raises after and do some calf raises in the morning or after sitting for a long time to get them pliable. The beginning sucks, but the result is worth it.
I should be joining you in just a couple days when my Syntherol arrives. I've torn my pec, bicep, hamstring, and dislocated my knee. Nothing compares to the acute pain of Syntherol in the calves. If you can make it through this than you can make it through anything.
Don't get too caught up on doing a ton of sets. It works for some advanced gyys, but personally I don't do more than 8-10 working sets for any body part and all of those aren't even to failure. It's all about intensity and then getting out and resting

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Lol! I've got a pretty good feeling they know you were kidding.
As for the calves, mine were really bad for a week. When I could walk it was on my tip toes for short periods. After 1 Week (maybe a bit less) I was good. Just have to get through the initial painful stretch. Massage and do a few minutes of calf raises after and do some calf raises in the morning or after sitting for a long time to get them pliable. The beginning sucks, but the result is worth it.
I should be joining you in just a couple days when my Syntherol arrives. I've torn my pec, bicep, hamstring, and dislocated my knee. Nothing compares to the acute pain of Syntherol in the calves. If you can make it through this than you can make it through anything.
Don't get too caught up on doing a ton of sets. It works for some advanced gyys, but personally I don't do more than 8-10 working sets for any body part and all of those aren't even to failure. It's all about intensity and then getting out and resting

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LOL! It's all good man. I'm still having a really hard time walking, but that just shows how bad I want this.
I'm in it for the long haul!

Sounds like I'm pretty much doing everything you said, so I should be good.
That's a lot of injuries! I hate you have so much to compare Syntherol to, but it does make me feel a little better...

As always, thanks for the great advice!!
 
Came here because of your log on another forum, Thanks for the good info!

Now I got to get in on this stuff!
 
nikon def making me wanna shoot my trest!had a few 20ml vials for sometime now! bodock, welcome to mc bro.
 
UPDATE; DAY 14


Today was leg day. I had a great workout, and I noticed a significant increase in aggression after my workout.
I washed my car after my workout, and I noticed that I was "blowing up" over little stuff. I'll have to try and keep a check on this.


I also weighed myself, and I am back up to 176lbs again. I was kind of frustrated, so I decided to take some measurements.


I took measurements on 8/28/14, and again today.


First measurements for arms were, 14", today 15".
First measurements on calves were 13", today 13 5/8"
First measurements for Middle Thigh; 18" 6/8, today 21.5"
First measurements shoulders (under delts) 46.5", today 51.5"


So, it looks like everything is coming along pretty well. I really can't complain about those numbers!


BTW, I dropped in the Trest-Deca yesterday @ 150mg/Week, and I switched over to Diabolix at 90mg/ED.
I have also decided to go up a bit on the IGF to 40mcg/ED.


I'm really hoping for some serious growth this week!
 
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