IGF / Prohormone Cycle Log

[The Dude]

Do not mix IGF with another product. That said careful with the Syntherol on the outer Calf heads. HCG is a double edged sword. Normally it gives the testes a boost to get them producing again.... When you totally stop AAS and you want you give your testes a jumpstart. Now that you are on HRT your testes will shut down. Administration of exogenous testosterone stops endogenous production. There is no point to using the HCG. It will increase estrogen levels though.
Think about it. What happens when your thyroid doesn't work efficiently? You get into optimal range through thyroid drugs. That's it. No point in randomly trying to artificially boost testicular output. It's short term and as I said you'll risk sides from elevated estrogen.

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[Nikon]

Do not mix IGF with another product. That said careful with the Syntherol on the outer Calf heads. HCG is a double edged sword. Normally it gives the testes a boost to get them producing again.... When you totally stop AAS and you want you give your testes a jumpstart. Now that you are on HRT your testes will shut down. Administration of exogenous testosterone stops endogenous production. There is no point to using the HCG. It will increase estrogen levels though.
Think about it. What happens when your thyroid doesn't work efficiently? You get into optimal range through thyroid drugs. That's it. No point in randomly trying to artificially boost testicular output. It's short term and as I said you'll risk sides from elevated estrogen.

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Thanks Dude!
I know a lot of this stuff is very elementary, so thanks for hanging in there with me!

How is your SEOexperience going? What do you mean about the outside calves? I start them tomorrow. Should be fine as long as I aspirate, right?

 

[The Dude]

Thanks Dude!
I know a lot of this stuff is very elementary, so thanks for hanging in there with me!

How is your SEOexperience going? What do you mean about the outside calves? I start them tomorrow. Should be fine as long as I aspirate, right?

My tricep is finally starting to fill out. It looks real good when I'm holding my gym bag and it's pressed against my side. I think I'm finally at the point where I might start seeing some stretching. My IGF is on the way and I'll order my Syntherol tonight.
The outer part of the calf is very thin and flat. Very little potential for growth and you want it to stay flat. I focus on the inner belly of the calf. There is a lot more meat there and it responds substantially more favorably to SEO in my experience. Also always aspirate. Even if you end up having to jab 5 times to get it right. The dangers are very real and happen very quickly.
I'm going to be making a much larger batch of my home brew SEO hopefully next week when my syringe filters come in. I might go 75% MCT and 25% cottonseed oil this time. No particular reason though

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[Nikon]

That sounds great man! I'm happy for you.

Do you think .5ml two times a week is enough for calves? (They are tiny 13"). They say it takes 18 months for the Syntherol to dissipate, so it should still work going that slow, shouldn't it?

BTW, I just ordered 4 Bottles of DMZ, and M1T! Not gonna take it until next year. Just wanted to go ahead and get it in case of the ban.

 

[SilkQuads]

Like mentioned several time before, this is a really good log! I love your positive attitude and you sound like you're being smart about thing meaning you're being consistent and have realistic expectations. So many people think they can take this or that and they'll get results overnight. People like you are the ones that actually reach their goals. Good luck and enjoy the process

 

[The Dude]

That sounds great man! I'm happy for you.

Do you think .5ml two times a week is enough for calves? (They are tiny 13"). They say it takes 18 months for the Syntherol to dissipate, so it should still work going that slow, shouldn't it?

BTW, I just ordered 4 Bottles of DMZ, and M1T! Not gonna take it until next year. Just wanted to go ahead and get it in case of the ban.

You're setting realistic expectations and long term goals which is not normal for a beginner. You're way ahead of the curve Bro. I would start there, but I would do it daily. I think .5ml in two spots per calf daily may be a good start. As you are growing I would look to add more. After maybe 5 weeks of daily injections then do the same volume you've worked up to, but only twice a week for 6-8 weeks.
I think you should research and select a training program. My suggestion would be DC training (Dogg Crap). Your supplement program is solid, but you need a well designed training program. If I were you I would also figure out a diet and eat the same thing everyday. It takes the guess work out of it and damn near guarantees the results you're after as long as you are getting enough sleep.
Did you post your diet somewhere?

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[Nikon]

Like mentioned several time before, this is a really good log! I love your positive attitude and you sound like you're being smart about thing meaning you're being consistent and have realistic expectations. So many people think they can take this or that and they'll get results overnight. People like you are the ones that actually reach their goals. Good luck and enjoy the process

WOW! That's very encouraging! Thank you so much Silk.

 

[Nikon]

You're setting realistic expectations and long term goals which is not normal for a beginner. You're way ahead of the curve Bro. I would start there, but I would do it daily. I think .5ml in two spots per calf daily may be a good start. As you are growing I would look to add more. After maybe 5 weeks of daily injections then do the same volume you've worked up to, but only twice a week for 6-8 weeks.
I think you should research and select a training program. My suggestion would be DC training (Dogg Crap). Your supplement program is solid, but you need a well designed training program. If I were you I would also figure out a diet and eat the same thing everyday. It takes the guess work out of it and damn near guarantees the results you're after as long as you are getting enough sleep.
Did you post your diet somewhere?

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Thanks again for such positive feedback! Comments like these are really gonna help me to stay motivated.
I agree that my training needs A Lot of work. I will definitely find a structured training program tomorrow. I looked at a few @ BB.com a while back, but I guess I forgot about it. I think there was a good one by Jay Cutler.
I have not posted my diet yet (it's very clean), but I will try and get to that tomorrow. I am really busy tonight with school. I'm a full time student majoring in Applied Sciences, with a minor in Network Engineering.
Thanks again Dude!

 

[Presser]

hey Nikon what exactly is Networking Engineering ? I mean what type of job opportunities does that kind of degree open up?

 

[Nikon]

Network Engineering is the design of Computer Network Systems. The market for this type of career is wide open and extremely lucrative.

 

[Nikon]

UPDATE: Day 7

UPDATE: Day 7

Still no gains, but I can tell a difference when I look in the mirror. I must be gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time. That is fine with me.
I can also tell that my muscles are harder.
My Delts seem A Lot bigger. That is from the 200mcg of IGF that went into Each one by mistake. They swole up when I did that, and they barely went back down!
It is very motivating to see such a difference so quick.

I still have not experienced any sides except for a bit of acne on the back of my neck. I bought some Cetephil for before bed, Neutrogena for the shower, and some astringent. Checking nipples and the boys every day. No change.

I decided to take the day off, because I spent 8 hours working on Math today, and I still have more to do. That much math always wears me out. I have not had time to look for a Training Regimen yet, but that is on the agenda for this evening. Tomorrow is Leg Day!

I pinned some more Syntherol today, and it went great! I pinned .5ml in the outer head of each Bicep, and .5ml on the insides of my calves.
I was only going to inject into 2 different places in my calves, but I decided to do three so that it will be distributed more evenly.
I will definitely do more in my biceps next time, because I cannot even feel .5ml in my outer bicep.
Calves are a different story. When it’s in there, you feel it. It doesn’t really hurt, but they are sore. Mostly, they just feel tight and pumped. I like it!

DUDE, you asked about my diet. I keep a pretty clean diet. I have lost 25lbs in the last year ½ without any cardio at all. I do not crave any junk food ever!
So far today I have had:

Mini Wheats w/2 cups milk and 2 tbsp of SynthaPURE. BEST PROTEIN I'VE HAD! It barely has a taste to it at all. The only ingredient is Whey Isolate. Nothing Else!
51gm Protein

2 Eggs ( 2tbsp Olive Oil, pepper), Chicken Sausage, SynthaPURE mixed with 2 cups milk and some sugar free chocolate syrup
48gm Protein

Peanut Butter/Celery
14gm Protein

ON Pro Complex Gainer with 2 cups of milk+Water
600 Calories/85g Carbs/60gm Protein - Minus the milk

Seared Ahi Tuna Steak with Olive Oil, garlic, oregano, basil, parsley, (23gm Protein), Baked Sweet Potato with a little cinnamon, Stewed Squash/Onions. I will also add a mixture of Sriracha, lite Mayo, and just a touch of A1 (I'm careful with sodium) for the remoulade.

I will have some yogurt/granola later with 1tbsp/SynthaPURE and a little milk to help with consistency, and maybe a shake before bed.

My International Egg Whites will be here Tomorrow! I’m looking forward to that! I will be drinking 1 cup (26gm Protein) before bed every night. This will give me the slow release protein I need at night. I will most likely be adding either SynthaPURE, or BSN Syntha 6. I also like to add some fat free, sugar free pudding. Usually banana or pistachio.

I will finally be getting a 10ml bottle of Trestolone Deca next week, if that works out (Fingers Crossed).

Tomorrow begins week 2!
So, starting tomorrow, I will be going from 25mg/ED to 75mg/EOD of Trestolone. That's a 100mg increase for the week.
Dianadrol goes up to 60mg//ED Tomorrow.
I will continue everything else the same.

I may have found a source for some Dbol. I'm thinking of adding 10mg/ED at the end of my cycle as a bridge. I also ordered some Ostabol for the bridge.

FYI, when I make any changes, I will be revising my Original Post. Hopefully that will help to prevent any confusion.

Thanks to everyone for your support this past week! All of your comments really mean a lot!

 

[Nikon]

Cutting Cycle

I would love some advice on planning my bridge and cutting cycle.
I am thinking about 2 bottles of Celtic Epi, and 2 Bottles of Celtic Halo Mass. That would run for 6 Weeks.
I may have found a source for AAS, so would Oral Winstrol for 6 Weeks be better that those?

Thanks

 

[HackTwat]

I would love some advice on planning my bridge and cutting cycle.
I am thinking about 2 bottles of Celtic Epi, and 2 Bottles of Celtic Halo Mass. That would run for 6 Weeks.
I may have found a source for AAS, so would Oral Winstrol for 6 Weeks be better that those?

Thanks

I'm a huge fan of Masteron for cutting. Winstrol hurts my joints. BAD!!! Masteron hardens everything up and has a major endorphin release which gives you the whole "Alpha Male" feel. Test Prop and Mast Prop at 100 EOD feels amazing!!! Just my 2 cents brutha!!

 

[Nikon]

I'm a huge fan of Masteron for cutting. Winstrol hurts my joints. BAD!!! Masteron hardens everything up and has a major endorphin release which gives you the whole "Alpha Male" feel. Test Prop and Mast Prop at 100 EOD feels amazing!!! Just my 2 cents brutha!!

Sounds like fun! So, how long should I run the bridge for, and what should I use for that?

I was thinking of running Test E 250mg/Week, 10mg/ED of Dbol, IGF, GHRP2, and Ostabol. I bought the Ostabol yesterday.

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Sadly, I do not have access to Masteron.

 

[Presser]

UPDATE: Day 7

Still no gains, but I can tell a difference when I look in the mirror. I must be gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time. That is fine with me.
I can also tell that my muscles are harder.
My Delts seem A Lot bigger. That is from the 200mcg of IGF that went into Each one by mistake. They swole up when I did that, and they barely went back down!
It is very motivating to see such a difference so quick.

I still have not experienced any sides except for a bit of acne on the back of my neck. I bought some Cetephil for before bed, Neutrogena for the shower, and some astringent. Checking nipples and the boys every day. No change.

I decided to take the day off, because I spent 8 hours working on Math today, and I still have more to do. That much math always wears me out. I have not had time to look for a Training Regimen yet, but that is on the agenda for this evening. Tomorrow is Leg Day!

I pinned some more Syntherol today, and it went great! I pinned .5ml in the outer head of each Bicep, and .5ml on the insides of my calves.
I was only going to inject into 2 different places in my calves, but I decided to do three so that it will be distributed more evenly.
I will definitely do more in my biceps next time, because I cannot even feel .5ml in my outer bicep.
Calves are a different story. When it’s in there, you feel it. It doesn’t really hurt, but they are sore. Mostly, they just feel tight and pumped. I like it!

DUDE, you asked about my diet. I keep a pretty clean diet. I have lost 25lbs in the last year ½ without any cardio at all. I do not crave any junk food ever!
So far today I have had:

Mini Wheats w/2 cups milk and 2 tbsp of SynthaPURE. BEST PROTEIN I'VE HAD! It barely has a taste to it at all. The only ingredient is Whey Isolate. Nothing Else!
51gm Protein

2 Eggs ( 2tbsp Olive Oil, pepper), Chicken Sausage, SynthaPURE mixed with 2 cups milk and some sugar free chocolate syrup
48gm Protein

Peanut Butter/Celery
14gm Protein

ON Pro Complex Gainer with 2 cups of milk+Water
600 Calories/85g Carbs/60gm Protein - Minus the milk

Seared Ahi Tuna Steak with Olive Oil, garlic, oregano, basil, parsley, (23gm Protein), Baked Sweet Potato with a little cinnamon, Stewed Squash/Onions. I will also add a mixture of Sriracha, lite Mayo, and just a touch of A1 (I'm careful with sodium) for the remoulade.

I will have some yogurt/granola later with 1tbsp/SynthaPURE and a little milk to help with consistency, and maybe a shake before bed.

My International Egg Whites will be here Tomorrow! I’m looking forward to that! I will be drinking 1 cup (26gm Protein) before bed every night. This will give me the slow release protein I need at night. I will most likely be adding either SynthaPURE, or BSN Syntha 6. I also like to add some fat free, sugar free pudding. Usually banana or pistachio.

I will finally be getting a 10ml bottle of Trestolone Deca next week, if that works out (Fingers Crossed).

Tomorrow begins week 2!
So, starting tomorrow, I will be going from 25mg/ED to 75mg/EOD of Trestolone. That's a 100mg increase for the week.
Dianadrol goes up to 60mg//ED Tomorrow.
I will continue everything else the same.

I may have found a source for some Dbol. I'm thinking of adding 10mg/ED at the end of my cycle as a bridge. I also ordered some Ostabol for the bridge.

FYI, when I make any changes, I will be revising my Original Post. Hopefully that will help to prevent any confusion.

Thanks to everyone for your support this past week! All of your comments really mean a lot!

thats great bro if the scale isn't moving but the mirror shows changes, thats a great body recomp!! Thats what most of us kill for actually!

 

[HackTwat]

Sounds like fun! So, how long should I run the bridge for, and what should I use for that?

I was thinking of running Test E 250mg/Week, 10mg/ED of Dbol, IGF, GHRP2, and Ostabol. I bought the Ostabol yesterday.

- - - Updated - - -

Sadly, I do not have access to Masteron.

You still have plenty of time to acquire a decent AAS source before then. Your diligent and I'm sure you'll be able to find one....

 

[Nikon]

UPDATE: DAY 8


I wanted to thank everyone for the advice throughout this first week.
It’s been great, and I’m looking forward to week 2.

Today was LEG day, and it was Awesome!

I started the week by bumping my Trest to 75mg/EOD and the Ddrol to 60mg/ED.

I pinned 20mcg of IGF into each outer calf. Honestly, it hurt like %$@#%! While pinning I was thinking, "I'm not doing this again", but after my workout I changed my mind. LoL!
I have one bottle that I received form another source. It was cheap, and I just wanted to give it a shot. It is definitely legit! (I just saw that my order from MC was shipped with 1 FREE Bottle!) Thank's MC!
I have skin splitting pumps in my calves that I have never felt before! It hurts a little, but I like it!
I’m really surprised to have such a great response at such a low dose. 20mcg didn’t really do much, so I think I will stay at 40mcg for a while.

I’m sure this also has to do with the Syntherol.
So far, I have only pinned 1ml into each calf with a total of 6 injections.
I’m gonna take a break from it for a few days in the calves, but I’ll probably hit the biceps again.

I also started B12 Injections today. I started with 500mcg. Didn't really notice anything.

I selected Jim Stoponni’s micro-cycle regimen for my training program.
I will be starting the 12 Week program on Monday. I’ve got my work cut out for me!

Here is a link if you want to check it out.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/shortcut-to-size.html

Still no change in weight. I’m trying to be patient. I know it’s coming!

I have noticed that the left bottom jaw hurts a little. I have read that can be a side from IGF, is that correct?

I’m gonna try and keep the posts’ shorter from now on.
I had a lot I needed to get straightened out in the first week, but I feel like I’m getting settled in.

Thanks Again for everything!!

 

[Nikon]

Don't forget to set your DVR for 2014 MR. Olympia Tomorrow @ 12:30 on NBC Sports Network!

 

[Nikon]

So, this is what I have came up with. Please let me know what you think.
I still need a little advice on the Arimidex. I have it planned for six weeks, but honestly, I'm not sure if that's correct.

Please ignore the attachment.

Thanks!

 

[HackTwat]

Looks good.

BTW: here's the link to my AAA Peptides Log
http://www.musclechemistry.com/uplo...eptides-log-ghrp-6-follistatin-ace-031-a.html