Criticism?

[n_nighmare]

Alright after lots of tweaking I have decided , to incorporate lifting movements from all angles on the muscle groups on the same day.

Because I dont think its worth doing say upper chest 1 week , middle chest next , and bottom chest the next week..

incline , flat , decline..

Why not do all 3 on each weeks exercise as long as im not over training , it will develop the muscles faster.

I plan on doing about 3 sets on each muscle group , heavy weight low reps.

Here is mondays workout , im going to check this workout out in a few was just wanting to post this up before I left for the gym.
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DB incline overhead press , DB military press , DB reverse incline overhead press

DB incline press , DB flat press , DB decline press

DB front raises , DB side raises , DB rear flys

Weighted dips , skull crushers , tricep pushdowns

DB upright rows , DB shrugs.

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I plan on maybe switching the skullcrushes to dumbell skullcrushers not sure. My idea is that I will train for dumbells on these exercises till I can do the biggest dumbells in the gym for my sets , which are I think 140's , maybe 120's im not sure I will make sure today.

Then switching to barbell movements.

 

[saudades]

Bro, you are just starting out. You only need to focus on compound basic movements right now until you build a foundation. Doing all that you described will just overtrain you not develop muscles faster.

 

[mcgaret]

Bro, you are just starting out. You only need to focus on compound basic movements right now until you build a foundation. Doing all that you described will just overtrain you not develop muscles faster.

bump saudades - keep it simple bro.

 

[n_nighmare]

I cut out the declines and reverse incline overheads while I was at the gym so thats out of routine.

Currently so far what its at is.

DB incline overhead press , standing military press DB.
DB incline press , DB flat press
Weighted dips , Skull crushers , Tricep pushdown.
DB upright rows , DB shrugs.

I didnt get around to the upright rows and shrugs , since shoulders were already feeling really worked and pumped , and since it was late went ahead n called it a night. I started with weight low and went up gradually to still get a feel for weight I need to use.

This is also the order the exercises were done , I finished all sets before switching to next exercise.
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DB incline overhead press - 40lb/10 , 50lb/10 , 60lb/6
DB incline press - 40lb/10 , 50lb/10 , 60lb/4
DB military press - 20lb/10 , 30lb/9 , 40lb/5
DB flat press - 40lb/10 , 50lb/10 , 60lb/9

Weighted dips I used to do 2 plates for sets around 8 reps , but this was also after all other work and long time off. 25lb/10 , 45lb/8

DB skullcrushers - 10lb/10 , 15lb/7
Tricep pushdown - 40/10 , 50lb/10 , 60lb/10

 

[dorian123]

two things here bro
1. drop the skull crushers those things are infamous for destroying elbows-trust me I know
2. Mike Mentzer said it best when he said, 1st worry about creating a 20inch arm then worry about the details...

in other words like everyone here has advised keep it simple, heavy and basic

take my advice for what you think it's worth

 

[n_nighmare]

Ok I dropped the skull crushers also. This is chest , shoulder , tricep , and trap day.

Wednesday is legs.

Friday is abs, back, biceps , and latss

 

[sweetcar1968]

best way to get hurt doing to many movements!!!!! especially starting out!!!! tell me if im wrong guys but for a beginnner (like myself) a good chest workout might include:

bench (flat)
incline dumbell claps
flat bech claps
seated flies

all the above im doing 3 sets of 8 increasing the weight each set untill i cannot do my full 8

 

[hector]

best way to get hurt doing to many movements!!!!! especially starting out!!!! tell me if im wrong guys but for a beginnner (like myself) a good chest workout might include:

bench (flat)
incline dumbell claps
flat bech claps
seated flies

all the above im doing 3 sets of 8 increasing the weight each set untill i cannot do my full 8

what the hell is a seated fly? you mean incline,flat or decine. one of those right and dumbell claps you need some peniciline for the clap bro.lol

 

[Get_Swole]

lol hector. sounds good sweet as long as your not fully upright on the fly's.

 

[sweetcar1968]

ummm ok so im not great with all the terminology, im just getting into using machines so I dont know what the call them all! Its where you sit straight up then you grap the two handles from behind your head andbring them forward to touch in front of you, it looks and feels like your hugging a tree. . . does that explain it? its an excercise i really like because i feel it in my chest more than anything else I do!

 

[jtunderdog]

I have learned there are only stupid people not stupid questions. The only way you find things out is to ask if you don't know. Its a fly machine bro. Keep asking questions and learn that's the only way to do it. We all make mistakes, you were just calling it like you see it.

 

[dorian123]

I have learned there are only stupid people not stupid questions. The only way you find things out is to ask if you don't know. Its a fly machine bro. Keep asking questions and learn that's the only way to do it. We all make mistakes, you were just calling it like you see it.

yep Bruce Lee said it best when he said, "it's better to ask a question and look stupid for a minute, than to remain silent and be ignorant a lifetime"

 

[hector]

you guys are right there is no no dumb questions. knowlege is power

 

[sweetcar1968]

yeah its ok ive been fucked with for less every day at work i gotta have 50 people tell me how "swull" im getting! So no hard feelings from me ever! Ive also learned you can talk to 10 different people and they will call the same excerise 7 different things. . . so anyways am I right in suggesting a begginer should stick to several simple movements as opposed to a bunch of complex ones?

 

[mcgaret]

YES! I would suggest flat bench, incline bench and if you have to do flys either flat,
incline or seated (on machine) for only 2-3 sets of ONE of them,
rather then one compound movement
(the bench) with three different kinds of flys.