Depression...

[brew]

Bro I have had real good luck with 5HTP. Do a search I posted some info awhile ago. I take 3 100mg pills ED for 7-10 days, once I feel it working I back off to 2 ED.

 

[Marble]

androgens have some effect on the major neurotransmitters you mention, and androgen receptors are scattered throughout the brain. sometimes the effects of androgens on the brain can be attributed largely to aromatized estrogen:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10553690&dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7529925&dopt=Abstract

you should look particularly at the profound effects steroids have on the nitric oxide system, disruption of nNOS leading to some really ugly behaviour in rats. particularly, depression. interestingly, it's strong androgens that don't aromatize at all that cause disruption of this system most profoundly, because estrogen counterbalances the effects to a great degree. it sure explains why fina, halo, etc. have earned their reputation, and rightfully so.


but more importantly: here's a fascinating thing. gh deficiency has long been known to cause depression, and:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15777771

igf-1 can help depression for long periods of time, apparently even in normal rats.

 

[optimalbalance]

Wellbutrin is great. I've also been on Zoloft, Paxil, and Effexor. Wellbutrin seems to be the best with no sexual sides. You can pick up 90 generic 100mgs. on-line for under $100. Free consultations are everywhere.

 

[Southern Comfor]

"Any of you notice that while using AAS you are depressed??"
Yes, I think thats half the thing that might be wrong with me right now. I sleep all weekend and feel like shit all the time, Im having a hard time getting motivated to do anything. The first two days I was fine, broke up with the misses, and life has gone to shit, every other cycle Ive felt awesome on, like I was superman. This time around I just feel like Im falling apart. Nothing has been going my way since I started, will Winny do this to ya? If so, what do I need to do to get back ahold of things?

 

[optimalbalance]

Depression is usually associated with shrinking after a cycle.

Southern, go out and get some

 

[Southern Comfor]

LOL, Im working on it trust me! My nuts are the size of raisens right now. And the hard thing is, to find the motivation to go out and get some.

 

[optimalbalance]

Southern open up the yellow pages under escorts. Really

 

[saturn1]

5-HTP works, but nothing beat my depression like Paxil........I had heavy deppresion after a year long cycle....sucked big time. Im glad thats over.

 

[Chaps]

I was diagnosed as being depressed over a year ago, paxil has worked wonders for me at 40mg a day. Any ant-depressant will have sides for the first bit anyway, taking paxil at night keeps me up, i had to take lerazapan to help me sleep for the first couple months. The other thing u have to keep inmind is that no ant-depressant works fast :angry: , it can take weeks for it to build up in your system.

 

[saudades]

So, body2see, you think your depression is estrogen related from conversion when you were on HRT? Also, if you were on HRT last year, why are you not on it now? Usually, HRT becomes a lifetime thing (well at least in my case it is).

 

[optimalbalance]

Paxil worked ok for me but for some odd reason I yawned all the time till my jaws hurt (but wasn't tired). The other thing was 10 porn stars couldn't have got me going. If I'm not breeding I'm really depressed.

Depression is a funny thing and extremely hard to diagnose correctly. Roids are very directly related but mostly when you come off and go from a bull to a girl. Tanning is always great for depression also.

These drugs increase serotonin to give you an example cocaine increases serotonin somewhere like 1,000% and extasy increases it like 10,000% (but don't quote me). If you ever experienced the crash you get when coming down then you know what depression is. The same shitty feeling of no wellbeing is a example of depression. When you need treatment you feel like your crashed all day everyday. The good and bad news is these drugs raises everyones levels and makes everyone feel more happy (like illegal drugs). Thats why they are getting popular. If your worse off you'll raise more intense however. In other words going from a 1 to a 10 feels differant than going from a 9 to a 10. But unless you really really need them save yourself the expense.

 

[brew]

bro its an herbal extract I beleive, I haven't used any prescipition meds..gave that a try and its worth its weight in gold to me. Got it bad after a prolonged cycle and heavy dose of winny. with in a wk I was a new person. It helps with seratonin uptake I beleive. Pm me if you want to get some I got a few cheaper online sites

 

[da_Fonz]

Well, when i feel depressed i just look at IP and i feel all better. Its a helluva pick me up, LOL.

I dont know, i actually dont really feel like that unless i run clomid during PCT which i dont do anymore.

 

[Southern Comfor]

Body to see, I bought that stuff Brew mentioned, Ill get in by Mid of next week if shipping works good, Ill let you know how it goes. However, Im feeling a lot better! At night I still feel like shit, I wake up in the middle of the night thinking my life is shit, then wake up in the morning wandering why I fealt such a way, hit the gym like an animal (work outs are back to normal) and then chill till 5pm and then it goes down hill again once I see the X. This weekend is her prom, I cancelled my Tux rental last week. Now ive got the upper hand!! Prom pictures with her alone will affect her a lot more than me. The other bonus is, Ive been out of school for 3 years and sure as hell dont need to be going to prom, the $ Ill save will get me 30lbs of protein. Hell yeah. Keep me posted!

 

[optimalbalance]

Southern, as time goes by you'll wonder why you was ever with her in the first place. If the rain wants to fall, you can't stop it at all. Peace

 

[Southern Comfor]

Sure thing bro, the guy didnt get it shipped out the day after I bought it, the guy called me on my cell phone and apologized, how about that for service? Sent me the tracking # mins later via e mail, pretty stand up if you ask me. Im doing a lot better, but could use the extra kick. I know you stay at about 5% Bf all the time. Dude, Ive dropped 5lbs this week and its staying off through the weekend so far Ive eaten damn near perfect. Chicken salad for dinner and I stole a few spoon fulls of ice cream from a friend! I cheated, kill me! Anyhow, How does Eq, Test, and winny do ya? Hows your diet look while on it? Lean muscle, no fat? Keep gains? I was thinking of deca-winny or test eth-winny, but I dont keep a lot of gains off of test. I would like to use EQ but Im staying away from EOD inj. for a while. 4 injects a week SUCK! Especially with prop.

 

[optimalbalance]

Keep up the good work southern!

 

[modizzle]

I've never tried the winny, test, and eq stack, but my friend did and the vascularity he attained was disgusting, makes me jealous!!! Not to mention the fact that he gained 15-20lbs of lean mass, and kept most of it post cycle...might be something for someone looking to lean up to look into. Can't wait to hear results from the 5htp!!

Hey bro,..did your friend run the winny through out or just at the end of that cycle stack?...

 

[Southern Comfor]

Id like to know too, what where his doses and how long? Never used Eq but from what I understand it is only in 50mg/ml. If I ran something like that Id have to eat clean and do a little cardio here and there, my body likes to store fat.

 

[brew]

. 4 injects a week SUCK! Especially with prop.

My thoughts exactly....oh wait a min, thats per week, lol. I love this shic but I'm doing that ED and its getting old quick.