I do not appear to have gained any fat honestly. I feel like my muscles are fuller which may be from the creatine and slin. From 1.5 hours before until after my slin I try to avoid fats. When I inject the slin I eat a carb drink, 20 creatine, 20g glutamine, whey protein drink, and a lil dextrose powder while I cook some spaghetti and a roast. I then eat the spaghetti and roast when it is done which is generally about 30min. I again take creatine and glutamine, 10g of each w/ the dinner which may be a waste but I am not worried about it. Then for the remainder of the day I try to eat high protein, moderate carbs, and low fat. My workouts and slin supplementation are generally later in the day so when I say I avoid fats the rest of the day that really isn't that long of a time. I am very pleased with my slin results. I have just as much ab definition and veiny forearms as when I started. I use my abs and forearms as a general measure of my bf levels.... I always eat very well and at least every 2.5 hours. I always seem to be eating. My strength is at its top... I haven't gotten alot stronger but have been having some great lifts... I feel like I will be making some "natural" (if you can call it that,,,lol) gains on this stuff...hahaha