IGF / Prohormone Cycle Log

[Nikon]

I types up this long post about prostaglandins. Long story short they will destroy the fat cells. Inject right into them. I believe several research companies carry them. It's painful and it will force you to evacuate your bowels, but whatever fat is in your nips will shrivel up and die. They are sold as either PGF or PGA

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I searched "prostaglandins" on MC, and nothing came up.

 

[The Dude]

I searched "prostaglandins" on MC, and nothing came up.

I'll send you a PM. I know I made some posts about it years ago.

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[Commandopat]

Did a post go missing? I thought I saw something about you aborting your cycle? Am I smoking crack?

 

[Nikon]

I haven't decided what to do yet. I'm afraid to take anymore Trest until I get it figured out.
I may have to just cruise on some test, and try and get this gyno under control. It's freaking me out.

 

[The Dude]

It's not you. Presser didn't like the way the post was worded, so he removed it. I haven't decided what to do yet. It doesn't look like I'm gonna receive the Anti-P. It may have been lost in the mail or something. I've never had that happen before, so I'm not sure what to do about it. Anyway, I'm afraid to take anymore Trest until I get it figured out. I may have to just cruise on some test, and try and get this gyno under control. It's freaking me out.

Did you try some nolvadex?

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[Nikon]

I ran Letro for a week and it didn't do anything but make feel bad. I've been running Nolva for a few days now @ 10mg/ed on top of .5mg Dex/ed. Haven't noticed a difference.

 

[Nikon]

Just wanted to apologize to Presser for being a jerk. He is doing everything he can to take care of me. I don't always handle things the right way when I get frustrated. I'm sorry for anyone else I may have offended. This is my favorite place online. There are some great people here, and I'd hate to have you guys upset with me. I'm chalking this one up to my hormones being all out of whack!

 

[Presser]

Just wanted to apologize to Presser for being a jerk. He is doing everything he can to take care of me. I don't always handle things the right way when I get frustrated. I'm sorry for anyone else I may have offended. This is my favorite place online. There are some great people here, and I'd hate to have you guys upset with me. I'm chalking this one up to my hormones being all out of whack!

thnx brutha! and your a stand up guy in my book! And again, I too am sorry for handling it the way I have! Thanks brutha! This site needs more members like you!

 

[The Dude]

Hugs and Kisses all around!!! I think that's interesting. I gave my brother some letro and he also said it didn't help. I was telling him to try nolvadex, but perhaps it is progesterone related with trestolone... very good info...
That's the thing with these new hormones. We can guess what they will do, but that isn't always accurate

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[HackTwat]

Hugs and Kisses all around!!! I think that's interesting. I gave my brother some letro and he also said it didn't help. I was telling him to try nolvadex, but perhaps it is progesterone related with trestolone... very good info...
That's the thing with these new hormones. We can guess what they will do, but that isn't always accurate

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I think you guys are on the right track with Progesterone relation. Especially since the Adex and Letro are ruling out Estrogenic activity by not doing a Damn thing. Just my 2 cents brothers.....

 

[Nikon]

That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
The most important thing I have learned from this is the importance of blood work.
Hopefully, i will have my job situation worked out for my next cycle so I can do it right.

Thanks guys.

 

[Nikon]

Hugs and Kisses all around!!! I think that's interesting. I gave my brother some letro and he also said it didn't help. I was telling him to try nolvadex, but perhaps it is progesterone related with trestolone... very good info...
That's the thing with these new hormones. We can guess what they will do, but that isn't always accurate

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Trest is a 19-Nor compound like Deca, so it raises progesterone in the same way.
Unfortunately, that is not something I knew anything about until recently, and had not planned for.
It seems like all everyone ever talks about is Estro.

From what I have read, increased prolactin shows itself a little differently when it comes to gyno.
It doesn't come in the form of a lump with itchy sensitive nips, but puffiness and even increased size of the areola.
It can also cause you to produce milk. Dude, that's crazy! I'm not there yet, and hopefully it won't get that bad.
Right now, it's just puffiness, but either way, it's gotta go. Thank God it's winter!

I'm really hoping that Dostinex (Caber, Anti-P) will reverse the problem. From what I understand, it will.
Anyone know if this is correct?

 

[IronJulius]

Trest is a 19-Nor compound like Deca, so it raises progesterone in the same way.
Unfortunately, that is not something I knew anything about until recently, and had not planned for.
It seems like all everyone ever talks about is Estro.

From what I have read, increased prolactin shows itself a little differently when it comes to gyno.
It doesn't come in the form of a lump with itchy sensitive nips, but puffiness and even increased size of the areola.
It can also cause you to produce milk. Dude, that's crazy! I'm not there yet, and hopefully it won't get that bad.
Right now, it's just puffiness, but either way, it's gotta go. Thank God it's winter!

I'm really hoping that Dostinex (Caber, Anti-P) will reverse the problem. From what I understand, it will.
Anyone know if this is correct?

it should fix the puffiness if its prolactin but you wont notice instantly usually a 5-10 days. how high did you run the letro and did you taper up and down?

 

[Presser]

Hugs and Kisses all around!!! I think that's interesting. I gave my brother some letro and he also said it didn't help. I was telling him to try nolvadex, but perhaps it is progesterone related with trestolone... very good info...
That's the thing with these new hormones. We can guess what they will do, but that isn't always accurate

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ok now i don't know where you guys bought your pro-hormones, so I'm not throwing any one company under the bus here so lets get that straight, but to the dudes point, i totally disagree, its not really a guessing game as to what a certain pro-hormone will do in terms of its aromitizing / conversion from the hormone to estro or progestro…..but its rather more of a guessing game if your being sold the actual hormone your being told your being sold, thats the issue, hormones are hormones, science is science, and the dude and even I myself of all people should know how hard these compounds are to come by, so when demand is high, people will sell anything as anything

sorry to say, and i am NOT saying this is the case in this one particular situation, but this does happen!

 

[Presser]

Trest is a 19-Nor compound like Deca, so it raises progesterone in the same way.
Unfortunately, that is not something I knew anything about until recently, and had not planned for.
It seems like all everyone ever talks about is Estro.

From what I have read, increased prolactin shows itself a little differently when it comes to gyno.
It doesn't come in the form of a lump with itchy sensitive nips, but puffiness and even increased size of the areola.
It can also cause you to produce milk. Dude, that's crazy! I'm not there yet, and hopefully it won't get that bad.
Right now, it's just puffiness, but either way, it's gotta go. Thank God it's winter!

I'm really hoping that Dostinex (Caber, Anti-P) will reverse the problem. From what I understand, it will.
Anyone know if this is correct?

Your new order is being OVERNIGHTED BRO! Anti-p and nolvadex , take both!

 

[Nikon]

it should fix the puffiness if its prolactin but you wont notice instantly usually a 5-10 days. how high did you run the letro and did you taper up and down?

I ran the Letro @ .25mg/.50mg/1mg/1.5mg/2mg/2.5mg

I did not taper it down, and I now know that I should have. Although, ran Adex with it, so that probably helped with rebound.
I still do not feel that Estro is the issue here though.
Unfortunately, I still have a lot to learn about all of this, but I have learned a lot along the way.

Thanks

 

[Nikon]

Your new order is being OVERNIGHTED BRO! Anti-p and nolvadex , take both!

Thanks Presser! You didn't have to do that for me.
You're a straight up dude!

 

[IronJulius]

i didnt do PCT my first 2 PH cycles which probably is the reason i got put on TRT. they sold them at a nutrition store with nothing on the bottle stating PCT so i ran 2 cycles of hdrol/mdrol stacked for 4 weeks yea i was a beast for a couple weeks but messed myself up. i try to always research what i plan on doing over and over because my mind is shot out but i dont want my body to be

 

[Nikon]

ok now i don't know where you guys bought your pro-hormones, so I'm not throwing any one company under the bus here so lets get that straight, but to the dudes point, i totally disagree, its not really a guessing game as to what a certain pro-hormone will do in terms of its aromitizing / conversion from the hormone to estro or progestro…..but its rather more of a guessing game if your being sold the actual hormone your being told your being sold, thats the issue, hormones are hormones, science is science, and the dude and even I myself of all people should know how hard these compounds are to come by, so when demand is high, people will sell anything as anything

sorry to say, and i am NOT saying this is the case in this one particular situation, but this does happen!

I just wasn't educated on 19-Nor compounds at all, so Progesterone wasn't something I knew anything about. Big mistake on my part.

I saw that you were thinking about getting into some of the same products as PO, and maybe some prohormones. What's the word on that?
It would be cool to have a source I can trust.

Even though I'm dealing with some minor sides, I will definitely want to run Trest again as long as I am able to manage them.
I was happy with the results from the Trest-Ace in the first 4 weeks, but I haven't really had any progress in the last 4 weeks.
In the last 8 weeks, I have gained 4lbs. Almost all of that was during week 4. I was seriously expecting more than that.
I think from now on I'll just blast Trest-Ace for 4 weeks at a time @ 50-75mg/EOD. That seemed to work pretty well for me.

Anyway, thanks for everything!

 

[Nikon]

i didnt do PCT my first 2 PH cycles which probably is the reason i got put on TRT. they sold them at a nutrition store with nothing on the bottle stating PCT so i ran 2 cycles of hdrol/mdrol stacked for 4 weeks yea i was a beast for a couple weeks but messed myself up. i try to always research what i plan on doing over and over because my mind is shot out but i dont want my body to be

I'm sorry to hear that man. I really thought I had done enough research before I started all of this, but I missed that one thing.
Everything else has been okay, I guess. Some things you just have to try in order to know how they're going to affect you.

I've been on HRT for almost a year anyway, so I don't see any need to PCT.
I am going to just run a small dose of Test (maybe 450mg) over the next 4 weeks though, or until everything is sorted out.
Then I'm gonna blast again with some Dbol or Superdrol, and maybe 4 weeks of Trest-Ace.
And of course, MC IGF.